Hey!!! What about something in 7.62x39? For mid range defense, any one of my polytechs, or vector underfolders with a 75rd drum would be the first thing i grab. The Saiga 12 is also nice if you have a 20 rd drum, and have 4 holes drilled into it near the gas chamber to make sure you have smooth cycling. The hoss Armalite AR10 in my avatar (which shoots circles around any springfield .308) is only used if they're coming from over 700 yards, and i have plenty of time. The XDM9 is definitely on my list as well.
I'm not a fan of ar15's like i once was. I just don't like the round. The only .223 i own is a bushmaster type 97s carbon pistol. It breaks down nicely, and fits perfectly into a slim line briefcase. I would even take a MAK90, or a CIA built underfolder over anything in .223/5.56. AK's run like sewing machines, and are true battle rifles.
Last edited by Trocar; 09-25-2009 at 11:40 AM.