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Old 03-17-2013, 07:16 PM   #21
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I agree with your comments, but they did get me to wondering about Utopian communities. Many have attempted Utopian communities but the only ones that lasted were religious based, i.e. monasteries, Amish, Mennonites, and so on. You seem to ahead of most of us on the community side of things so I would really like to know your thoughts on why so many Utopian communities failed in the past?
It is really simple..! Most of the people here are of the art-sy hands on artisans.! Our common goal is to create things of beauty and we all have our own niche. No competition , all separate creations.!
By doing this , we've eliminated the biggest flaws in the human psyche.! No competition , no lesser insecurities or hang-ups to deal with.! Everybody is quite comfortable in their own field of mastery..! No fear that I might still your ideas for some monetary gain or control issues.!
That would be my guess why others can not succeed.! One ego , one ill-rational , self centered attitude..! Make's all the difference when you eliminate the "ME , ME , ME , self indulging perspectives..!
Like one family , to help and wish all to succeed is key , harmony with-in the family structure.! No baggage , just equality of the most practical kind.

Religious utopian communities , they rely on faith and do not at times recognize the choices they make freely.! To banish logic and blindly rely on faith is doomed to failure.! Cause and effect , rhyme and reason , accountability and to be humbled by the privileged to be a valued part of such a profound emotion , COMPASSION..! What I do matters to all.! Think well beyond myself..! Simple..! It would almost seem that every ounce of effort I put out , is returned 10 fold in many other ways.! I am a lucky man to have stumbled upon such a little group as these . It started long before I'd got here and I am quite lucky to have found it.
We all had the same interests and that is why we are here to begin with..!
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You must continue to pay property taxes and health insurance is a major challenge. People who retire with good incomes find health coverage a major financial out lay.

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I would like to suggest a sister forum to this one, run by the same admin

Www.preparedsociety.com

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Looking at some of the "religious" sects , They also are doomed and failure is inevitable . There is an alarming rate of deformities in the new-born area.
Their own Gene pool is the very source of their demise .

You're not supposed to sleep with your sisters , mothers , etc. and it's only a matter of time ! The numbers are increasing ..! Will give them credit though , a very long "Hang Time"..!

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Dango so true. The religious communes failed because they were inevitable based on a socialist model. Everyone works and everyone shares from the produce and wealth in accordance to their needs. The problem occurs when not everyone works and produces but demands to share in rewards. It seems that group grows faster than the working groups. Sounds familiar???

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I would like to suggest a sister forum to this one, run by the same admin

Www.preparedsociety.com
Pretty cool site, tons of ideas and information.
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Pretty cool site, tons of ideas and information.
I've enjoyed it. It's where I go when I get pissed off at trolls here.
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Trip I was thinking the same thing!

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Trip I was thinking the same thing!
I kinda figured that
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You must continue to pay property taxes and health insurance is a major challenge. People who retire with good incomes find health coverage a major financial out lay.
The property taxes aren't an issue, but you are correct on the health insurance issue. In fact, insurance is on our radar as a concern to plan out.
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