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Old 03-16-2013, 05:39 PM   #11
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I'm not real familiar with that specific area, I live in the mid-coast region. I have been to areas around Carroll and there is some pretty country out there.

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QFT.

Being relatively close to the ocean, it might not get as cold there as it does in the ADKs, still, I'd bet BTUs are going to be your biggest expense. You can heat a whole Passivhouse with one stove burner.

In the event you haven't already; FYI:

http://www.city-data.com/county/Penobscot_County-ME.html
True that ^..! On the west coast , you've got prevailing winds on your side.!
On the east coast , you've got the "Gulf-Stream" on your side..! That would be a fact . The air coming off the water is usually warmer than air temps..!
+ a food source.!
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Sounds Good.
Do it if you can.
Some years ago I wanted to move out to the middle of the desert.
Then I realised
with my health problems,
I must be some where near medical aid.
Some thing to think about.
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In the pursuit of off the grid , learn as much as you can about your fellow man ,
neighbors. No man is an Island and there isn't enough time in a day for any one entity or single family to do it all . For a long extended venture , all will most likely have to team up in small groups.

The mix of abilities in my small community will make the difference in weather we flourish or parish .! I by myself am an extremists , but even I know that extended survival takes more time than I can muster.

The small group that I belong to already (11-17) peoples , do and have since the beginning know each-others strengths and weaknesses , and we all share the common goal , SURVIVAL..!

Before you commit to geography , get a feel for others directly involved with your end goal , your neighbors..!

The best of luck and (YUE CAN DOO EET)..!

I agree with your comments, but they did get me to wondering about Utopian communities. Many have attempted Utopian communities but the only ones that lasted were religious based, i.e. monasteries, Amish, Mennonites, and so on. You seem to ahead of most of us on the community side of things so I would really like to know your thoughts on why so many Utopian communities failed in the past?
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I really appreciate the comments and suggestions. I was a bit hesitant to post this, and am glad there are others who share the same thoughts on life. This certainly isn't something we take lightly and will really plan things out, well as much as possible.

You guys have given us a lot of insight! As far as health concerns I would rather take that on under my own terms. Living day-to-day with the stress relating to someone else's bottom line sounds like a lot less fun than dying cutting down a tree which directly relates to my bottom line.

I welcome more ideas, and will somehow keep connected when we do move which will be in about three or so years, but planning starts now.

We have a motto already...it's all about ME <--Get it? All about Maine I'm stoked.

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I'd say go for it.

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I really appreciate the comments and suggestions. I was a bit hesitant to post this, and am glad there are others who share the same thoughts on life. This certainly isn't something we take lightly and will really plan things out, well as much as possible.

You guys have given us a lot of insight! As far as health concerns I would rather take that on under my own terms. Living day-to-day with the stress relating to someone else's bottom line sounds like a lot less fun than dying cutting down a tree which directly relates to my bottom line.

I welcome more ideas, and will somehow keep connected when we do move which will be in about three or so years, but planning starts now.

We have a motto already...it's all about ME <--Get it? All about Maine I'm stoked.
Please post comments on some of the things that you learn while planning this. I'm guessing you will be doing a lot of reading up and picking up a lot of ideas?
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I enjoy my life as it is right now. I don't have any desire to change it at this point. But, I do know people, like you, who are so 'held hostage' by their jobs that the stress levels are killing them. For instance, my brother. He has a very high stress job. There are lots of demands on him and he is responsible for a lot. He also travels quite a bit which puts a stress on his family life. He has a HUGE house that is killing him with mortgage payments. He is crabby most of the time because he is so stressed. He's the type of guy who has to show people he's successful but it's killing him and he's not enjoying life. I don't think the answer for him is to 'get off the grid' but I think many people can benefit from downsizing. Get rid of the house and mortgage payments that are killing you. Who needs a house that can house 2 whole families? Do you really need the most expensive vehicle to prove your successful? Do you really need the RV, the snowmobile, the jet ski, the country club membership, dining at the best restaurants, etc? Sometimes you can save your sanity by downsizing and simplifying.

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I really appreciate the comments and suggestions. . . .etc.
The other issue you're going to have is the growing season, it's short. You can compensate for the cold; cold boxes, several layers of plastic sheeting over the bed will both generate heat during daylight and hold it in at night, etc. But the yearly daylight is limited compared to southern latitudes.
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Again, all good points. The growing season is a concern so we are looking into a root cellar design as well as canning to preserve as we go and reduce waste.

We are really looking into the Passive House designs so thanks for that tip. There is actually a passive house website specific to Maine that my wife has dug into. They seem to be quite expensive from our initial research, but may just be worth it in the long run. I spoke with my dad last night and he wants to move with us He is retired and is quite skilled in wood working.

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