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7point62 01-07-2011 12:41 PM

Survival Medicine
 
How prepped are you? Can you treat wounds, burns, blast injuries, fractures? Shock? Hypothermia? Animal bite? Is a good trauma/medic kit part of your bug-out-bag? Do you know CPR/BLS (at the least)? What about infections? Do you have antibiotics? How familiar are you with medicinal plants? Hydration management? Can you give an IV?

Do you have good medical handbooks in your kit?

DocWard 01-07-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 7point62 (Post 416911)
How prepped are you? Can you treat wounds, burns, blast injuries, fractures? Shock? Hypothermia? Animal bite? Is a good trauma/medic kit part of your bug-out-bag? Do you know CPR/BLS (at the least)? What about infections? Do you have antibiotics? How familiar are you with medicinal plants? Hydration management? Can you give an IV?

Do you have good medical handbooks in your kit?

Depending on severity, blast injuries are among the most severe and difficult to treat, often being limited to comfort care in a field environment. They often include brain trauma, regardless of whether the cranium is disrupted.

At most any level below a hospital setting, fractures are best splinted, then the casualty treated for shock.

Antibiotics can be fraught with problems, particularly penicillin based ones. Others can react adversely with other medicines, and nearly all can create problems if a complete regimen is not given.

By law, IVs can only be prescribed by a doctor, even if it is normal saline. More importantly, it is important to know when and why one gives an IV, and what is given in those situations.

Oh, and yes, my aid bags are stocked and ready to go. Of course, I'm a part time Army Medic. There are several good books on the subject of First Aid. I will double check a couple of titles the next chance I get.

Poink88 01-07-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWard (Post 416917)
There are several good books on the subject of First Aid. I will double check a couple of titles the next chance I get.

Please do post what you can recommend, I am very interested.

7point62 01-07-2011 02:23 PM

Grateful for your input, Doc. I'm suggesting by these questions that professional medical care is not available due to remoteness or catastrophic infrastructure fail. I'm sure some of our military people here have taken the CLC (combat lifesaver course).

I have a pretty basic M3 bag. I'm thinking of upgrading.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53.../medicpack.jpg

What are your thoughts on storable medicines? Don't many prescrip meds have a much longer shelf life than the lables suggest, provided they are stored correctly?

amoroque 01-07-2011 02:32 PM

This is a very interesting topic.

I do have a lot of first aid/CPR training, but I dont currently have more than a basic first aid kit in my bug out bag.

I'm interested to hear what you guys come up with so I can be prepared.

JonM 01-07-2011 03:23 PM

in a true shtf i will be hitting the local vet stockpile at the feed store. dont need to go through doctors and most vet meds are given dosage by weight. while peeps are battling each other at walgreens over cough syrup ill be raiding the feed stores.

most meds dont have terribly long shelf life so stocking them when there are no signs of disaster is a big cost.

living on a ranch growing up i treated lots of animal wounds and my own cuts and scratches with vet grade topical antibiotic creams. they tend to work better than the triple antibiotic that you get at walmart.

i would have no worries about treating my own illnesses wit vet meds if all other sources werent available.

Troy Michalik 01-07-2011 05:46 PM

JonM is spot effing on right here.

The wife and I raise and train horses and are ALWAYS having to doctor, bandage, inject or stitch something. The feed store is a good starting point, they'll have all the bandages, ointments and wound spray, but they don't typically carry the more advanced stuff like suture kits and IV fluids. You'll need a vet supply for that kind of stuff.

So if you happen to be "on the run", stop by and we'll patch you up. ;)

7point62 01-07-2011 11:14 PM

The Special Forces Medical Handbook is a good one to tote along with you if you can locate a recent edition. I get my books on a military base but I'm pretty sure you can get it on-line.

It's also worthwhile to spend 400 or 500 bucks and take an EMT/B course if your local community college offers it. I did it as a refresher but ended up learning new stuff.

HKSlinger 01-07-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JonM (Post 416996)
in a true shtf i will be hitting the local vet stockpile at the feed store. dont need to go through doctors and most vet meds are given dosage by weight. while peeps are battling each other at walgreens over cough syrup ill be raiding the feed stores.

most meds dont have terribly long shelf life so stocking them when there are no signs of disaster is a big cost.

living on a ranch growing up i treated lots of animal wounds and my own cuts and scratches with vet grade topical antibiotic creams. they tend to work better than the triple antibiotic that you get at walmart.

i would have no worries about treating my own illnesses wit vet meds if all other sources werent available.

My wife was a vet tech.. She'll be going,"shopping" with me.;)

IGETEVEN 01-08-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 7point62 (Post 417329)
The Special Forces Medical Handbook is a good one to tote along with you if you can locate a recent edition. I get my books on a military base but I'm pretty sure you can get it on-line.


Indeed, Feedstores and Co-ops are very good sources for all your medical supplies, needles and needs, including injectable, as well as, oral antibiotics and other medications. They are much less expensive, but they are not less quality. They are made by the same major pharmaceutical companies that manufacture the people antibiotics and medications. As mentioned, they do need to be diluted and dosed from animal to human wt/dosage.

Here is St-31-91B, U.S. ARMY SPECIAL FORCES MEDICAL HANDBOOK on a PDF file you can download and store on your computer and have on file for reference, or one can print out a specific section to utilize for training and practice. ;)

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/milmed/sfhandbook-pt1.pdf


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