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Old 09-28-2012, 08:25 PM   #31
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These kinds of situations are purely hypothetical and will not happen anyway, at least in our lifetimes. It almost seems like some guys want this to happen just so they can use their survival skills and survival equipment, and survival guns. Why don't you just go off into a remote woods sometime and pretend it has happened and then come back and ask yourself if you really do want it to happen?
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I agree with this completly.
I have met a lot of arm chair ninjas and 99.9% of them wouldnt survive without Wally World. If you want to see what its like , I suggest you go to the mountains in the winter and walk away from your car for 4 hrs. and spend a night in the cold .
Or join the military and try for Rangers or Seals.
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I agree with this completly.
I have met a lot of arm chair ninjas and 99.9% of them wouldnt survive without Wally World. If you want to see what its like , I suggest you go to the mountains in the winter and walk away from your car for 4 hrs. and spend a night in the cold .
Or join the military and try for Rangers or Seals.
Why? Do folk w/a trident or Ranger tab get to go to Box-Mart more often!?
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if you could only have one rifle for a survival tool, which brand,model and caliber would you choose? consider that you can only carry what you can on you.
if you had to choose between a flash light, a lighter and poncho to carry, which would you choose?
if you had to abandon your home for any reason , what would you take with you? knowing there's a chance that you might have to survive for days possibly away from home, say 3-5days
To your first question:scoped savage 17 hmr, perfect for small game. Second: the poncho, staying dry should be first priority.
Reality... If I had time to grab one item and my rifle, it would be a properly prepared 'bug out bag'.
One other problem with this scenario is that I would never flee my home in a SHTF situation.it is safe, secure, and well stocked. I do have a BOB but,other than my attackers setting fire to my house, I can't think of a truly valid reason to leave my home in a defensive move.
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I DNK, it's all so arbitrary.

WHERE ya buggin' out to?

WHAT's the mission?

WHAT's the weather?

WHAT's the duration?

Try this:

Grab your 22LR rifle, as many bricks of ammo as you like. Take your

preferred pistol and mags and ammo, and the rest of your gear.

Simply spend 24 hours out of the house, away from any supply

sources.

MY evaluation is :

I'm giving myself up for dead.

Therefore, anything else that happens is gravy...

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Why? Do folk w/a trident or Ranger tab get to go to Box-Mart more often!?
I was going to respond to this but then I decided not to.
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I was going to respond to this but then I decided not to.
But, but the entertainment value is sooo much fun.
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if you could only have one rifle for a survival tool, which brand,model and caliber would you choose? consider that you can only carry what you can on you.
if you had to choose between a flash light, a lighter and poncho to carry, which would you choose?
if you had to abandon your home for any reason , what would you take with you? knowing there's a chance that you might have to survive for days possibly away from home, say 3-5days
If I had to bug out, and btw, I do not plan on it. I am very rural and do plan
to make a stand. But I do have my "emergency" backpack; if I did have to
leave it would be under force. I also have 6 basic routes planned all on foot
and in different directions all based on various threat vectors. I am
assuming if I am forced out I will have to do so on foot, as using a vehicle
most likely will not be an option. I am assuming that the mission is survival
evasion and escape.

Therefore, being forced out I would not choose a 22LR; a 22LR is fine in a
pure survival mode but is anemic for security. Then you have the debate on
power versus weight and ammo load. IMO, my weapon of choice is my AR-
15 it is a good balance between weight (including ammo load out), firepower
and reliability. My pack has all my basic needs, shelter, fire starting, first
aid, basic field tools, water (for a day). I would leave dressed for the lowest
evening temps, expected; keeping in mind that I will not likely be able to
build a fire as it would give away my position. 5-7 days is a normal hunting
trip for me. On hunting trips, I typically only bring water, seasonings (I am
civilized you know) and 2-4 meals the rest of the meals are tree rats, rabbit,
roots and the occasional fowl for meals. My “day” pack has water
purification tabs but there is plenty of running water around here so I would
try not to use those. Now gun hunting is not likely a good way to get food
and carrying a bow and a rifle is not practical, so you should be learning
traps and snares. When on hunting trips I will set up 6-10 traps/snares, all
materials are from the environment, except a little Para cord (and that can
be substituted from nature also) and a knife. Traps and snares will get you
food with the noise of a firearm.

You can often find good cover and concealment near water, at least in these
parts. That would be my primary goal.

Sorry I did not follow your rules but, I stack the deck in my favor whenever
possible. As the quote goes, “If you ever find yourself in a fair fight your
tactics suck.”
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Why? Do folk w/a trident or Ranger tab get to go to Box-Mart more often!?
If you have never experienced it you would not understand, so why should I waste my time replying to your question.





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For the rifle, I suppose I'd got with a Legacy Sports M1500 Talon, preferably with a scope. I strongly feel that .223s are better than .22s in a survival scenario, that extra force makes a pretty big difference for when a .22 isn't optimal, but the bullet is small enough that I'd feel comfortable using it on smallish game.

A lighter seems better than the flashlight since the flashlight would ruin my nightvision and be a dead giveaway. The lighter also seems better than the poncho because while I could find shelter, finding fire would be harder and more critical.

If I could take one thing from my house knowing I'd be gone for 3-5 days, it'd be my dog, because retaining my humanity is more important than surviving. Also, he could feed the both of us pretty easily if we found any decent amount of squirrels.

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