Originally Posted by Colby
Like others, I question the need for large quantities of ammo. Holed up in your three bedroom brick ranch in suburbia won't last long. Then you've gotta leave - because there is nothing there to sustain you for a long time. Then you've gotta abandon your 500 pounds of ammo and 150 pounds of guns and take the bare minimum that doesn't slow you down physically.
That usually means 22LR rifle and a handgun. This gets down to just a few hundred rounds of 22LR and perhaps 9MM. Boots, clothes, medical supplies, food and water then make the major weight contributors - and the most important.
And, oh, by the way, don't have a heart attack because of the totally sedentary lifestyle your poor body has been living for the past 40 years... Be honest about this. Not many people living in today's America can go running around the country side on foot - searching for food, water, and safety and survive.
Let's face it, not many people can make it from the outer reaches of the typical mall parking lot to the grocery store without major troubles and huffing and puffing.
Those posters describing running out of 50 cal ammo were not referring to a SHTF scenario - but rather a government sponsored shoot-out and government supply system in place scenario that they saw or heard of - abroad --- much different from a SHTF - I'm on my own scenario.
Yes, things will be different. And hundreds of pounds of ammo is not likely to make a difference.
Physical fitness will ... and there is not much of that in these United States of America.
My intent with this thread was for widespread (global) collapse of ecomony
and society. Localized disasters like earthquakes and storms like Katrina
and Sandy are much different. If you have 200 rounds of ammo you are
likely overstocked, and a week of food you are good. In a global collapse
you need to be ready to support yourself for years.
Stockpiling ammo is only one thing for prepping. I own dozens of guns
because I like shooting but prepping weapons are AR-15 in 5.56mm and M
1911 in .45 ACP. Having ammo in other cartridges is fine but those are my
First you have to think of what will be the biggest issues, senarios, for you
to deal with, loss of services, electric, water, sewer, fire, police, etc. How
long do you think before those services are back up.
We me it will only be electrical loss that will be a challenge, and police even
today take 20-60 minutes for them to respond. Fire Dept is okay but again
rural. I live on well and septic. So I will have water and septic is 100%
gravity. Yes, I have non electrical pumps to get water out, we need those
now for those times we do not have power for 3 days and still have to water
livestock. I have equipment to replace the loss of electric service, but
conservation will still be a primary concern.
Why does everyone think everything has to be carried out of you home on
your back. I would guess that most of us own cars or trucks? Also do you
have somewhere to go, or should you be looking to hunker down where you
are at. If you do not have acreage in the country to flock to how about a
panic or reinforced safe room in your house. I am a welder so I would not
find it impossible to line one room with AR plate and re-inforced walls and
You have to think outside the box on this, working with other like minded
individuals whom you can completely trust. The Trust part is the most
I am rural, I have no where else to go, so I am making preparations to
stay. My main concern is roving gangs looking for water, food and supplies.
I will defend my property. I expect my few neighbors to join in that effort, I
know several who will likely leave as they have option further out. Many will
stay. Most of us have livestock and gardens, the loss of electrically power
will be more of an inconvienence. Many of us have bulk fuel on our farms so
that will be a benefit.
Here is an idea, when you have a free weekend, turn your main breaker in
your electrical panel off for the weekend and pretent that the water is not
working if you are on city water and what it will be like. No flushing toilets,
not water to drink fridge getting warm, frozen food thawing. You can use
your generator if you have one, but you cannot go get any gas but what you
have... your mind set has to completely change.