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Old 07-07-2009, 07:31 PM   #11
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1) I don't believe we will see the dreaded Space Zombies in my lifetime
But Hey, If your prepared for Zombies you should be prepared for just about anything!

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I'd think the little ones would be stringy and tough, while a nice fat desk jockey would have tender, well marbled muscles
So Desk Jockey's go on the smoker and little ones get a marinade
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But Hey, If your prepared for Zombies you should be prepared for just about anything!
It's a little known fact that zombies are currently our largest threat. All it takes is one outbreak and it's the end of the world as we know it.



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So Desk Jockey's go on the smoker and little ones get a marinade
I never thought about it that way. It's always good to share thoughts when it comes to cannibalism, you come up with better recipes that way.
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Are they really more tender than adults? I'd think the little ones would be stringy and tough, while a nice fat desk jockey would have tender, well marbled muscles.
All of it is edible, it's just how you cook 'em. The big fatty will shrivel up in a crockpot, but slow roasted over an open flame? Deeeelish!
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I, like Ineffable, am a man of faith, and trust in the Lord to provide. Now does that mean that I trip along through life like the fabled grasshopper? Umm…….no. I believe in preparation and in being as self sufficient as possible, and if along the way I am able to bless someone a little less fortunate out of my excess, then I will.

Also, while canned foods do last quite a long time, remember to rotate your stock. I cracked open some of my Y2K stash a couple years ago….. Now I’ve heard of aged beef, but aged green beans are another thing entirely.

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I have no problem with Jesus, it's his fan club that I dislike.

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I have no problem with Jesus, it's his fan club that I dislike.
Say when and I'll make the introductions...
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Say when and I'll make the introductions...
Thanks, I'm cool. We can get together for a beer sometime, but no preaching.

I'm a huge fan of his teachings, but, by and large, most of his teachings have fallen by the wayside in favor of religious fervor and church dogma. Most that truly follow the ways of Christ are considered cultists, pacifists or hippies.

When I got clean, I "white knuckled it" rather than go through a 12 step program and admit that I was powerless to my addiction and admit that only god could help me. Strangely enough, I'm still clean to this day without God and using only my power of will.
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OK, OK, I am a Christian first, but I didn't intend for this thread to get "preachy". I REALLY appreciate the points brought up - THANK YOU!! OPSEC will indeed be our SOP for as long as we can do that. The key to OPSEC is EVERYONE could see the "shelter" being built, but no one needs to know what we've stockpiled inside my house.

But yes, we have some lib neighbors who LOVE the way things are now going politically (Civic hybrids, Obama stickers, etc). My next-door neighbor is a really good guy but we hardly speak to one another when I found out what a socialist he is and how ridden with "white guilt" he is. He has two teenage daughters. I believe our communication lapsed when I asked him why he was in favor of his daughters being able to get an abortion or morning-after without his knowledge, and with very little REAL medical breifing to the patient prior to the procedure....

Now, the LAST thing I want to do is spark a racism debate, but back to the point about the space Zombies - that wasn't 'quite' what I meant by SHTF. I am referring to conditions like looting post-Katrina. Also, my CCW instructor actually brought up a point I hadn't previously thought thru - an assasination of the sitting president, who is half black. Anyone who remembers the Rodney King beating and the O.J. aftermath in the early '90's has lived thru racially charged days (and riots in some places). I believe this type of thing, amplified a few 100x, is what my instructor was probably referring to when he said we should be prepared to last 2 weeks minimum (until "order can be restored" - as he put it, regardless of the cause). Who knows what may happen? Another fear is my own government taking over my home, like what is happening in Sudan under Mugabe where people are being forcibly removed from their homes to make way for those the government deems more "worthy" of the property. Those who resist are summarily executed.

One other point: Gas generators. They are great, but back during Hurricane Isabel I and my neighbors endured minimum of 18 inches of flooding (18" in my garage, 4 feet deep @ the street) Ev-ry-where. My next-door neighbors had natural gas-powered generators. I had a portable. After the flooding both NDN's generators were FUBAR. I drained my generator fuel tank and carb float, dried them out, put fresh gas back in, and voila! - I was the only one with a working generator for a week! Just sayin'.

THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR THOUGHTS/INPUTS!!

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Honestly, I'd worry more about hurricanes, floods, fires and earthquakes more than I would civil unrest. I'll deal with fires and you'll deal with at least 2 hurricanes this year, your chances of massive civil unrest or other zombie hordes are slim to none.

I can assure you that the FBI, CIA, NSA and the Secret Service are doing more to protect this president than any other.

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People have said here, and other places, that they would have no qualms about turning away friends and neighbors who refuse to prepare, or who think they're entitled to your benevolence and protection, or just plan to take what they want from you when disaster strikes.

I believe that is the wrong position to take. Of course we can't give aid or food or water to everyone who knocks at the door, but this modest proposal should be acceptable to all members here on FirearmsTalk.

We know the possibilities of losing all electrical power and other forms of combustion. No matter how much we might be able to stockpile, an event of a long duration will eventually deplete the supplies. Food stocks will shrink and other sources of nutrition will be required in the event of complete societal breakdown.

This is where the good hearted FirearmsTalk member can really shine their light to humanity in those dark days of disaster aftermath. For if society falls into chaos, we know that FirearmsTalk members will be the new elite of a rebuilt nation.

We aren't concerned here with those rural members, as we know they will certainly be self-sufficient on their land. No, we are concerned here with those members in the suburban setting. Many people now live in walled or gated communities. These communities will be excellent places to begin to rebuild society along the lines we know will flourish.

The FirearmsTalk member will of course lead the new enclaves of civilization, along with other members of the gun culture who survive. These new Spartiates will be the civil and military branch of the area. And what of those who drive a Prius, or have O stickers on their cars? Well, of course, we do need laborers. It seems the best option is indeed, not to run out those examples of homo democraticus pathicus suburbanensis, but to employ them in the services needed to maintain our new, improved society. The large swaths of parkland or lawns in the community can become farmland. As working stock will be in short supply, or non-existent in the area, what better way to plow the ground than to harness a few of the leftists and have them turn the ground? Who else to use to reload our guns, make our sandwiches and keep our houses while the burdens of leadership rest on our shoulders? No one else is so fitted or so desirous to be bound to a government master than the leftist!!!

Yes, friends, let us not turn away the Prius driver, or the O sticker owner, but make them partners in our new society. Let them experience their joy to the full as they labor for a government that only has their best interests at heart. When, or if, disaster strikes, help your fellow man by making him work for you. Only then will the leftist be truly free-- and we of them.....

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