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Old 09-21-2010, 08:25 PM   #11
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Wow, I have never put any realy thought into this until today.

Sounds kind of alarmist, but then again, it could happen.

Maybe I should have a SHTF kit in my house.

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It's just like insurance. Bad things may not happen. But if they do, what could you have done to increase the odds in your favor?

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Well, I have several respirators, including military protective masks- and Level A full body suits, chemical detectors, radiation meters- but teach HAZWOPER classes now and again, and use all of it.

My concern is not the half life of plutonium, but the half life of dirt that gets irradiated- better known as fallout. And yes, I know how to do dose and dose/rate calculations. 2 operating nuke power plants over thataway. One large primary nuke TARGET thataway, and 2 secondaries over there.

BTW, folks, there is NO filter that MAKES oxygen (wear a filtering mask into an oxygen depleted atmosphere and you WILL die) and there is NO one filter than gets everything. If you think the old man is funning you, put on a military protective mask, clear and seal it, and then crack an ammonia inhalant near the intake. Military protective masks are rated for radioactive dusts, infectous diseases at spore size level, and standard chemical munitions at differing filter life rates. Do some studying.

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I don't expect a gas mask to even remotely protect me in a nuclear event. However, I do expect some protection from most plausible chemical or biological events and that's why I have them.

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Well, the gas mask is an interesting idea. Probably not bad to have around but like everything know how to use it and keep the filters in good condition. I personally don't think that most people would know that they need to put a mask on until it's too late. In WW1/2 people in Europe were trained to listen for sirens, detect chemicals, or just wear their gas masks during every air-raid as a precaution because by the time one realizes there is poison around - it's too late.


I personally don't live in an area with much chemical threat from industry or other, so I don't have any masks. As for radiation - well I know how to deal with fallout without specialized gear (SAS survival manual is a good start to find out fyi) but the mask is minor in that case.

I would say that if you're in an area with a real chemical threat go for it, but otherwise use the money on a more basic and more certainly useful gear. Remember the ol 80-20 rule. 80% of problems can be solved with 20% of basic gear - so get the basic 20% before getting the specialized stuff.

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If you have the MCU-2/P version from what the Air Force uses. Need to check for:

Examples of defects included excessive dirt, stained eye lenses, separation of silicone rubber from metal parts (disbonding), and inoperable drinking tubes. Examples of unserviceable conditions included disbonding,
excessively stained eye lens, and leak test failures.

http://www.foia.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-100528-102.pdf

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I have a US M40a1 for my personal use.
and the full suit, except I don't have a pair of pants yet.


And I bought a guy out who had a ton of gasmasks and filters. I just haven’t gotten around to selling them yet.
So I have about 200 pounds of NBC gear sitting around in boxes.

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You know I never gave it much thought but in reality with my proximity to a chemical weapons depot here in Ky. (about 30 miles north of me) it might be something to look into. They are in the process of clearing out a lot of stuff there but no one knows what will stay behind.THe place has been there for many years and has all of the nifty stuff they have been using or had to be able to use since mustard gas was the big dog in the show. So really I have no reason to believe that they will empty it any time soon if at all.

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