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Old 09-01-2012, 01:12 AM   #11
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Jung catalog had a crapload of bean varieties, ill check there when I order next. Thanx, there are people that do this, I think its called seed savers exchange.



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Here is a link to common vegetable varieties that are non-hybrid (heirloom). Many are commonly sold (carrots- Danvers and Nantes are popular, and heirloom)

http://www.survivalblog.com/2012/07/heirloom-vegetable-varieties.html

Also, if you are looking at TEOTWAWKI gardening, learn difference between an annual and a biennial plant- you get seeds the SECOND year.

Two plants that are overlooked many times- potatoes and peanuts. If you are going to live on what you grow, you NEED carbohydrates. Potatoes fit the bill. Easy to grow, HUGE growing range. No seeds, save some potatoes to replant.

Peanuts- need light soil. Very high in protein, oil. Easy to grow IF you can control the critters- deer love them.



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Here is a link to common vegetable varieties that are non-hybrid (heirloom). Many are commonly sold (carrots- Danvers and Nantes are popular, and heirloom)

http://www.survivalblog.com/2012/07/heirloom-vegetable-varieties.html

Also, if you are looking at TEOTWAWKI gardening, learn difference between an annual and a biennial plant- you get seeds the SECOND year.

Two plants that are overlooked many times- potatoes and peanuts. If you are going to live on what you grow, you NEED carbohydrates. Potatoes fit the bill. Easy to grow, HUGE growing range. No seeds, save some potatoes to replant.

Peanuts- need light soil. Very high in protein, oil. Easy to grow IF you can control the critters- deer love them.
Never grown peanuts. I'll have to give them a try. Any particular varieties that you favor?
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I got enough problems with critters already. Rabbits, possums, coon, cats, deer just stomped my potato patch last week. If the fines weren't so hefty I would be poaching the bastards! I considered a nuisance permit, haven't jumped through the hoops yet.

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I got enough problems with critters already. Rabbits, possums, coon, cats, deer just stomped my potato patch last week. If the fines weren't so hefty I would be poaching the bastards! I considered a nuisance permit, haven't jumped through the hoops yet.
I have fenced all of my gardens, one is fully enclosed by chicken wire. Took a small investment but well worth it. The one next to the house is just a rudimentary fence but it keeps the deer out.
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I put up a fence, a rabbit dug under it and couldn't get out. It freaked, right before I shot it. I shoot almost every animal in my garden except for deer. Easiest way...

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Here's a pic of the one fully enclosed garden just after I finished it (there is now a chicken coop next to it on one side and everything is in raised beds now instead of the wine barrels). On the right are the raspberries. It is just over 1000 square feet in size.

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There is a 2"X6" pressure treated perimeter board all the way around mine, the big double wide gate has a railroad tie underneath it, only 1/2 inch clearance under the gate. Rabbits can't get in. Sometimes I get a small bird in there but that is all. The wire is as tight as a drum. Oh, and the water is from a year-round natural spring.

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For peanuts, Jumbo Virginian.

For deer, we were using an electric fence. Found I could mount a motion detector floodlight on a 4 ft beanpole, with one light bulb and 1 adapter to power a waterproof radio. Scares the crap out Bambi.

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Nice setup Viking. I'm jealous.



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