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Old 07-25-2013, 01:06 AM   #21
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Armede revolt will only start if there is a breakdown in the welfare system, and those who choose not to work no longer get their freebies.

The rebellion will come from the left ,not the right. And the military will put it down in a couple of days.
Left or right I think that any ....."uprising" that was enough to call in the troops that it would under control in a couple days. With all the high tech killing toys the military has they still have not had much success from the 60's till now. And comparing the opposition to us over the years it has been like Fred Flintstone against cyborgs.

Mind you I'm talking about any real instance of rebellion. Being a truly determined people that are willing to accept losses. And we have to take into account if even it was a bunch of left wing hippys many on the right will see it as the feds getting too sh*t house crazy and will join in due to fears of a total clampdown. It would bring the martial law that so many on the right have been talking about for years. That can and probably will unify enough people to do some real damage. Can they win? Maybe - Maybe not. I remember a bunch of setterlers overtaking the best army and navy on the panet ast one point in history. It something has happened once than it can happen again.

I do hope and pray we never have to find out though.
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Personally, I don't really see any armed revolt going anywhere.

If anything does happen, it's going to be more of a class warfare than us against the gov.

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Now, if somehow or someway something changed that all people were affected all at once, no matter race, religion or political affiliation.. We as a people have been systematically divided making this more unlikely, not impossible though.
It will start WHEN the government fails to pay it's bills (Bonds, social security, armed forces paychecks, gov workers paychecks, etc.......) The banking system will collapse, your checking account will no longer exist, there will be runs on all the banks, food stores will have to shutdown, police services will no longer exist, fast food restaurants will be sacked for what ever they have left, gas stations will have lines miles long of people waiting to get to the pumps, fist fights will breakout which will lead to shootings.

That's how it will start, with an electronic message "Sorry your funds are not available."

The financial cliff is real people and we are still on the edge of it.

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So if tomorrow Obama orders for all firearms to be turned in or starts confiscating them from every American, you don't think there would be any revolt?
With the huge percentage of Americans that own firearms (and the power of the NRA), you think most will gladly hand them over and keep quiet, simply because we have food and entertainment?
It only takes 1% of the population to start a revolution...
No, I'm not advocating for one, nor do I see this happening in the near future, but I don't think it's impossible.
I just figured that every man stands for something. If food, porn and YouTube is good enough for you, then great!

First of all, Obama can't legally order such a thing and no law enforcement would back him by beginning an illegal confiscation program. To play the game you suggest, sure, some people would revolt. They would be called "criminals" and "terrorists" and would be dealt with as such.

People who are well fed and happy rarely want to die to displace their government.
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The military can't even start to MOVE in 2 days. :-) Seal Team Six bragged about being able to get in MOTION in 24 hours, ferchrissakes. A little 100 man, 24 hour on call outfit. They should have been able to put 20 men in motion in a few minutes, actually. But they can't.
Seal team six itself can get rolling in a few hours. It's the chain of command that creates the problems.

The people of Afghanistan have never had high tech weaponry. Yet, they still managed to bring the Russians to a stalemate for 20 years. Our Army has been there for 10 years and the extremists have only gotten stronger. The Taliban went from a rabble to being able to open an embassy in Afghanistan. I think the American people are better organized than a bunch of illiterate sheepherders.
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We hear of these countries that overthrow their governments...
I don't believe we are anywhere near that happening here in the US but I AM very disappointed with the rights being taken from us and the invasion of our privacy...

What do YOU think would have to happen for there to be a revolution here in our country?

Could it be...
1. Our 2nd (or any other) amendment taken away?
2. A certain race or religion being incarcerated or interned?
3. One of the many conspiracies proven to be true and spread to the public?
4. Etc, etc.

I'm not asking if you think any of these things will happen..
I'm asking 'what do you think would have to happen for their to be any uprising?'

Or will America just sit back and let the tyranny kick in?

...just a fun thread for all the conspiracy theorists and doomsday preppers.
Its already happening DTN, No Revolution ever began with citizens attacking the Government in Charge. They always begin with negative chatter that either spawns change that kills the revolution or spreads across the population and inspires visible group public outrage. Revolution only goes deadly the day a majority of the citizenry determines they cannot effect change using the legal methods of redress and thats the SHTF scenario of Revolution short and not so sweet.

Were still in the Chatter mode but most think were edging closer to forming those groups of public dissatisfaction representatives that could lead to physical confrontation. The Dems have already labeled the Tea Party and The NRA as two subversive radical groups, nearly getting the same Anti American rating as Al Quida!

This isnt anything to kid about, no revolution is something we should ever hope for. The "Them and Us" equations arent the same in 2013 as 1776, "We outnumber them 100:1" worked in our Revolution because we had many of the same weapons and advantages as the Brits did, thats not the case today!

This one could end really badly, those we elect and pay to represent Us, protect Us and defend our Rights have tools and methods that outgun possible Revolutionaries 100+:1 even if the human participation numbers are 1:100.

The Republicrats have chosen themselves over the US Citizen as the arbitrator of the American Dream, FOOG! They arent giving up the high ground to the citizen so they will disarm us one group at a time. When they have gotten the most out of grouping us, the attacks on the single citizen will begin.

This doesnt have to go to the extremes of War, it could be rectified at the place our founders created to fix whats Phucked in our Nation, The Voting Booth! Be assured, if we dont fix it with our vote soon, the rants and chants will progress to a point of no return.

The last time we were this close to Revolution in my lifetime was May 4, 1970 in Kent State, 4 Dead in Ohio. Were awful close to that now, all its gonna take is a State or Federal act like Kent State and were off to the races. I pray with all my heart and soul It will never happen, we will turn a corner before we march off the cliff but Im not seeing the precursors to meaningful restoration of our rights, just more of them being taken every day FOOG!
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u don't want to organize against Big Bro, that's suicide. He will offer reward/ bribes, and your "buddy" will rat you out in order to retire to Fiji. Or he'll get captured, and he'll be waterboarded until he snitches. All those who need their little hands held to do anything aint worth having along, anyway. 100 guys, acting as individuals, no knowledge of / or contact with the others, doing the right things, can destroy this economy in a month.

If there's no economy, the $100 bill will be toilet tissue. Then what does Big Brother use to pay his thugs with, hmm? Why would they get shot at for free? Who is protecting their loved ones while they do the bidding of Big bro?

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Armed revolts rarely do much but make people dead in very high numbers and make despots and dictators out of the leaders in the governing body that squashes the revolution. Think about very bad people not wanting to let a good crisis go to waste.
There are much more effective (and less bloody) ways to bring about real productive results in a short amount of time without even needing to have a single angry thought. It took the 15% of the voting population that calls themselves progressives 30 years of serious organized hard work to bring this nation to its knees and realize their goal of shared equality of misery. What could 85% of the voting population do if it were organized and wanting to bring about productive meaningful positive results.
Now. How much of the population is willing to back away from the buffet line or pull away from the popular reality tv programs or sports events and pay the least amount of attention to things that really matter? Statistically insignificant amounts almost to the point of being immeasurable.

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