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Old 03-30-2013, 01:09 AM   #11
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Nuclear, Biological, Chemical.
Why do I feel all warm and fuzzy..? Thanks.......!
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Or as we used to say-

"Nuke 'em 'til they glow-

So you shoot 'em in the dark!"


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I'm already glowing , Eeeek..!.............

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Dango! We TOLE you- QUIT chewing on the Chem-lites! BAD Dango! BAD!

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Nuke survival 101

There are two main categories
1. Being in the damage radius of a nuclear weapon when it detonates
2. Being in the area that will be contaminated with radioactive fallout.

For 1. there are 2 defenses- A. Put 7,000 ft of granite rock above your head (see Cheyenne Mountain Colorado) OR-B. Be somewhere else when it happens. The damage done by a nuke consists mainly of the same things associated with conventional explosives- blast and heat. They are almost immediate (well, so fast you don't really have time to ponder it). Direct immediate nuclear radiation in excess of 600 rads- no real treatment possible- it is a done deal.

Most of the concern is with the second hazard. Soil and debris that is sucked thru the fireball becomes radioactive. It is carried downwind, and falls back to the earth as dust. It IS radioactive- but unlike plutonium or uranium that stays hot for hundreds of thousands of years, it decays a lot in about 14 days.

You mission is to keep the dust away from you, and refrain from breathing it for about 2 weeks (or less, depending on how much is out there- but we will call it 2 weeks)

You CAN try shielding (dense materials- Concrete, lead, brick, books, dirt, water) but distance is also in your favor- all radiation works on an inverse square- 4 times as far is 1/16th the dose, etc. So a clean space with air between you and fallout is a good start.

Not breathing fine dust- and keeping it away from you- Requires a space that can be pressurized with CLEAN air- pushes out, keeps dust from coming in. Called positive pressure. There are commercial filters and blowers- but you can also build a pretty decent version using furnace filters and rolls of toilet paper. You can also build a simple bellows type air pump from heavy cardboard and good tape. Idea being to pull air thru filter into your place of sanctuary, letting excess push out.

Inside, you will need food, water, and provisions for sanitation for 2 weeks. If you MUST go outside for any reason, time is your enemy. Keep it short. A high efficiency respirator or military protective mask can keep dust out of your lungs, a poncho can help keep it off you, but you need to decontaminate before going back into sanctuary.

You can score a surplus radiation meter for a few bucks on E-bay. or make your own foil electroscope type. There are also meds to help prevent your body from taking in radioactive iodine, (potassium iodide) since your body concentrates iodine in one spot- the thyroid.

There is a LOT of reading available on line and in print. Look for a paperback copy of Pulling Through by Dean Ing. Read it before you need it.

Now, some of you right now are thinking "Boy, old C3 sure is paranoid!" Well, of COURSE I am! Graduated from US Army NBC school in 1970, live in a target rich environment, and have 2 nuke power plants about 20 miles away.
Forgot one thing a faraday cage.
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Duck and cover works for atomic bombs but doesn't work for thermo nuclear bombs. I know, I uesd to have to go through duck and corver drills in grade school even shortly after they came out with thermo nuclear bombs. They gave up in about 1962 on duck and cover.
Also, whats a little fall out between friends.
Oh no, we had nuclear "tuck your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye" drills after that. I do recall the teacher one day saying not to bother -- it won't make a difference. I also recall the rush to find and buy potassium iodide (KI) and potassium iodate tablets after the Japanese Tsunami/nuclear plant accident.
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I'm going to walk out and enjoy the warm weather.

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Best damn sun tan you'll ever get, and you won't even have to lay in one of those damned death traps they call a tanning bed.

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Best damn sun tan you'll ever get, and you won't even have to lay in one of those damned death traps they call a tanning bed.
Damm! Have to stock up on moisturizer too!

Do you think sun block 30 high enough?
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