 |
|
 02-08-2010, 04:45 PM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3 |  Making an "O Sh**" bag
I think that I should have a bug out bag ("O SH**" bag) for when the time comes that I need to go to the hills/ good camping bag. I just got a very nice Swiss army rucksack that is pretty big and is very durable with reinforced leather bottom and straps and is made of strong rubber like material for $30. I just got a new sleeping pad, metal 40oz water bottle, and a olive rain poncho. I will be building this up for summer so I will always have it ready to go. I will be getting a tent, first aid, MREs, ect. What do you guys/gals think of it and what should I add? | 
|  |
| 02-08-2010, 05:01 PM | #2 | Sic Semper Tyrannis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , The Mother Lode Posts: 18,437 |
Great idea. Most of us here have a set up ready to go. I have a "truck bag" that's in the truck and always ready to go as well as the usual stuff at home.
I suggest you search the survival & sustenance forum threads and you'll find a wealth of knowledge. __________________
Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where those least capable of leadership are elected by those least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to succeed or provide for themselves are rewarded with goods and services paid for by wealth confiscated from a diminishing number of people who actually work and produce.
ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε | |
| |
| 02-09-2010, 05:27 PM | #3 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4 |
We got rid our bug out bags, because their to heavy to carry and you can't get enough in them. If one needs too bug out there is a good possiblity the roads are gonna have check points so vehicles are not an option. My wife an I each have a deer hauling cart that can haul 250 lbs and can be easily pulled up and down hills and through the woods, creeks,etc.We can pull them a ways out of sight pitch our tent and relax,then be gone at sun up with no sign except for four bicycle tire tracks.Forget the bag man get ya a cart.  | |
| |
| 02-09-2010, 11:10 PM | #4 | Sic Semper Tyrannis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , The Mother Lode Posts: 18,437 |
...or not. __________________
Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where those least capable of leadership are elected by those least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to succeed or provide for themselves are rewarded with goods and services paid for by wealth confiscated from a diminishing number of people who actually work and produce.
ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε | |
| |
| 02-10-2010, 12:39 AM | #5 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4 |
that is quite an intelectual response,"or not"! | |
| |
| 02-10-2010, 04:34 AM | #6 | Sic Semper Tyrannis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , The Mother Lode Posts: 18,437 |
It was intended to be a humorous reply to your evangelical championing of a cart. Mind your manners. __________________
Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where those least capable of leadership are elected by those least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to succeed or provide for themselves are rewarded with goods and services paid for by wealth confiscated from a diminishing number of people who actually work and produce.
ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε | |
| |
| 02-10-2010, 05:07 AM | #7 | When it's Necessary.... Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tornado "Just Blow Me" Alley, Oklahoma U.S.A. Posts: 8,424 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by tanasi
We got rid our bug out bags, because their to heavy to carry and you can't get enough in them. If one needs too bug out there is a good possibility the roads are gonna have check points so vehicles are not an option. My wife an I each have a deer hauling cart that can haul 250 lbs and can be easily pulled up and down hills and through the woods, creeks,etc.We can pull them a ways out of sight pitch our tent and relax,then be gone at sun up with no sign except for four bicycle tire tracks.Forget the bag man get ya a cart. |
Although a very sound idea to load your BOB bags and excess equipment onto, that cart may get a little cumbersome to pull over some rocky or rough terrain. Better solution, add or replace the cart with a horse, mule or donkey. They can haul double the weight, are faster and can maneuver in areas that cart would have some trouble in. Of course availability of pack animals depends on where you are located rural wise and their accessibility.
Jack __________________
Jack
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Hemingway
“The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about.” | |
| |
| 02-10-2010, 10:34 AM | #8 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by CA357
It was intended to be a humorous reply to your evangelical championing of a cart. Mind your manners.
|
Sir, the intent evidently failed and my manners are intact, however your responses are ill mannered and impolite. If one does not agree with an idea then would it not be better to read it and move on rather than to engage in a verbal quip? Right or wrong a person should be entitled to an opinion.This is the first post I have answered on this forum and,quite frankly, if this is how one is treated by the members here,it will probably be my last.Sir
IGETEVEN;
That is definitely true a horse would be perfect and we first tried horses but they need feed and shoeing. One also needs to be apt at training animals constantly for new situations.Also animals make noise, though that could be a useful alarm it could also give away ones position.The idea of a cart came from the plains indians pulling travois, I would agree that this is better but,in my humble opinion,still problematic because of the additional supplies and training one would need for animals. | |
| |
| 02-10-2010, 10:50 AM | #9 | Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,126 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by tanasi
We got rid our bug out bags, because their to heavy to carry and you can't get enough in them. If one needs too bug out there is a good possiblity the roads are gonna have check points so vehicles are not an option. My wife an I each have a deer hauling cart that can haul 250 lbs and can be easily pulled up and down hills and through the woods, creeks,etc.We can pull them a ways out of sight pitch our tent and relax,then be gone at sun up with no sign except for four bicycle tire tracks.Forget the bag man get ya a cart. |
A bug-out bag is generally used to provide you with items to help you get to an alternate location. Water/water purification, a little food, shelter (tent or tarp), fire-making tools, first-aid kit, warm clothes, a radio, maps of your area (in case you need to travel overland) and a compass will get you a long way.
I'm not sure what it is you had in your bags, but it sounds maybe like many of those items should have been at your alternate location ahead of time. It isn't realistic to think you can haul large food supplies or all your treasured belongings in a SHTF scenario. __________________
When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them against you...you may know that your society is doomed. ~Ayn Rand | |
| |
| 02-10-2010, 04:18 PM | #10 | When it's Necessary.... Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tornado "Just Blow Me" Alley, Oklahoma U.S.A. Posts: 8,424 |
Quote:
Originally Posted by tanasi
IGETEVEN;
That is definitely true a horse would be perfect and we first tried horses but they need feed and shoeing. One also needs to be apt at training animals constantly for new situations.Also animals make noise, though that could be a useful alarm it could also give away ones position.The idea of a cart came from the plains Indians pulling travois, I would agree that this is better but,in my humble opinion,still problematic because of the additional supplies and training one would need for animals.
|
As noted below by bkt, a BOB bag has the essential survival items one would need to safely get to a preplanned AO, where if planned ahead, one would already have a larger stash of additional survival items and food supplies.
The horse, mule or donkey are "acquisitioned or acquired" along the way, especially if you do not have one. They would be solely used for quick egress and evacuation of an area. If one wants to maintain a pack animal for further personal use, then they do hobble up nicely, plenty of grazing within the woods and pastures, hay and alfalfa fields will be abundant as you travel, grain can be obtained one way or another. The animal can even become a food source if it indeed comes to that stage. Remember, this is a total SHTF scenario and you and your families self preservation, so there will be a lot of "needed things" that will probably be somewhat available and acquired along your travels.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bkt
A bug-out bag is generally used to provide you with items to help you get to an alternate location. Water/water purification, a little food, shelter (tent or tarp), fire-making tools, first-aid kit, warm clothes, a radio, maps of your area (in case you need to travel overland) and a compass will get you a long way.
I'm not sure what it is you had in your bags, but it sounds maybe like many of those items should have been at your alternate location ahead of time. It isn't realistic to think you can haul large food supplies or all your treasured belongings in a SHTF scenario.
|
Indeed.
Jack __________________
Jack
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Hemingway
“The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about.” | |
| |
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
|
|
|
