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Old 01-19-2012, 02:53 AM   #191
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Another die hard Minnesotan, gotta love this weather ay sonic? Time to get ready for all the people to learn how to drive again. Are you in the cities or up north by chance?

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The warning signs are all around us. All we have to do is open up our eyes and look at them. Almost every single day there are more prominent voices in the financial world telling us that a massive economic crisis is coming and that we need to prepare for the worst. On Wednesday, it was the World Bank itself that issued a very chilling warning. In an absolutely startling report, the World Bank revised GDP growth estimates for 2012 downward very sharply, warned that Europe could be on the verge of a devastating financial crisis, and declared that the rest of the world better “prepare for the worst.”

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A crisis in Europe would be a mixed blessing for the USA.

If the Euro disintegrates, then the investor class and businesses there will buy dollars again, making the Euro cheap, and the dollar dear. Like China's gobbling-up of dollars, this extends American deficits further into the future, and allows DC to continue to print more money monitarily. I am combining fiscal and monetary issues, but they both mean the USA will benefit.

If the Euro completely crumbles, then the US dollar may simply take its place.

In that case, like Greece, and Spain, and Portugal, and Italy, and Ireland, and Iceland, then the USA will be able to continue printing and borrowing money for a long time.

The crumble of the Euro would create artificial demand for paper dollars.

DC would have a heyday. And SHTF may not hit the fan for another 50 years.

Obama would take credit, and Boener would complain that we are still printing too many dollars. But as usual, Boener would not know a thing about what he is talking about, and Obama would still be powerless to do anything about the economy, nor would anybody else, but at least it would not get any worse.

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Another die hard Minnesotan, gotta love this weather ay sonic? Time to get ready for all the people to learn how to drive again. Are you in the cities or up north by chance?
North suburb. yourself?...cute pup!
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Guys I remember September 11th 2001 like it just happened. I fueled up my pickup early that day and went about my business. I always keep some food on hand and my family has canned and gardened for years. I grew up that way. Later that day I went to the gas station to get gas for my lwn mower and what saw amazed me. For a small rural town to have so many people running to get gas was a sight to behold. One glutton had 2 55 gallon drums in his truck filling them up! Then I thought to go see what was happening at the grocery store. It was almost empty! My point being all that took was one morning of tragedy. What's going to happen in a protracted event?

I think we all have skills that allow us to be a help to someone. We should organize those skills in our communities so that if abnd when the hard times truly come we can deal with them. I'm very thankful not to live in a city. To me that's where the real trouble will be. Maybe if you live in one you ought to find a trusted friend in a rural area. I also am inclined to think that there will be a scorched earth policy if obama is not elected again. I think we will see riots. It will get ugly. If that comes to pass and we get past a state of martial law we can regroup and move forward. If however the government thinks we all need to be in a secure place I'm afraid any preparing we do will be in vain.

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Guys I remember September 11th 2001 like it just happened. I fueled up my pickup early that day and went about my business. I always keep some food on hand and my family has canned and gardened for years. I grew up that way. Later that day I went to the gas station to get gas for my lwn mower and what saw amazed me. For a small rural town to have so many people running to get gas was a sight to behold. One glutton had 2 55 gallon drums in his truck filling them up! Then I thought to go see what was happening at the grocery store. It was almost empty! My point being all that took was one morning of tragedy. What's going to happen in a protracted event?

I think we all have skills that allow us to be a help to someone. We should organize those skills in our communities so that if abnd when the hard times truly come we can deal with them. I'm very thankful not to live in a city. To me that's where the real trouble will be. Maybe if you live in one you ought to find a trusted friend in a rural area. I also am inclined to think that there will be a scorched earth policy if obama is not elected again. I think we will see riots. It will get ugly. If that comes to pass and we get past a state of martial law we can regroup and move forward. If however the government thinks we all need to be in a secure place I'm afraid any preparing we do will be in vain.
I agree with you 100% of the chaos that will erupt if obama is not elected. I was taking Chicago CTA (public transit) to high school back in 1983 when they had Harold Washington running and threatened numerous times on the CTA that I would be beaten if Washington didn't win. I hate to say that there were the same threats back in the OJ case. Amazingly obama has polarized the nation with class warfare and I will lay low when he loses because people WILL be in danger.
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A crisis in Europe would be a mixed blessing for the USA.

If the Euro disintegrates, then the investor class and businesses there will buy dollars again, making the Euro cheap, and the dollar dear. Like China's gobbling-up of dollars, this extends American deficits further into the future, and allows DC to continue to print more money monitarily. I am combining fiscal and monetary issues, but they both mean the USA will benefit.
Except for one (or two) major issues... Big US banks are deep into the Euro, and even worse, GS and others have backed the bonds with CDS and other unregulated instruments. Plus, the United States Federal Reserve has a larger interest in the Euro. All of these moves to me smell of last minute desperation.
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how many belive that Obama will usher in martial law before the new elections and the agenda to destroy this country will go in rapid pace

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