how to CARRY >1 longarm and pack, hmm?
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Old 06-21-2014, 05:39 PM   #1
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How to shoot or intimidate anybody with a gun you aint GOT with ya? How to get the looters to wait while you go trade your bolt action or shotgun for your ak? :-) "Where to get the crystal ball that tells you when to have this specialized gun, as vs that specialized gun? :-)

How to make that birdshot worth a hoot in a fight? how to make those slugs worth a hoot at 200+ yds.? how to carry enough of those 10 to the lb 12 ga shells to be worth having the danged thing? What to do about all the NOISE scaring off the game and calling in your killers? Why bother to carry the noisy, heavy thing, when you are down to your last 2-3 shells?

How to score on enough small game, birds, fish, etc, to make up the 5 lbs of (ready to eat) food you'll need to not lose weight (when stressed)? that's 10 lbs of live weight animals/fish, EVERY day, guys. You've never had a week of such success in your life, and that's your "game plan" if things get tough? :-)

Better have a buried, 1 year supply of long-term food, as well as traps, nets, etc, cached, along with non-hybrid, tested-local garden seeds.

And have a maximally versatile longarm, like a silenced, short-barreled, scoped 223 autoloader, with a .22lr conversion unit. It's rather like having a multi-tool, instead of just a knife. Having just a knife rather sucks when you need to turn a screw, file down a surface, grip something, cut wire, etc. Having just a centerfire, just a shotgun, just a bolt action, just a rimfire, those things suck too, quite often.

Now, if you want to settle for not having the .22 conversion unit's cheap, quiet indoor practice for your rifle, you can go with a 20 AK or 30 Carbine, and also carry a silenced .22 pistol, like the superb Smith 2214. and maybe a pocket 9 also. But you wont have the effective range of the 22 unit in the (scoped) rifle, especially not in thick cover, or at dawn or dusk, when you're most likely to have decent shots at game.

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Old 06-21-2014, 05:42 PM   #2
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when trying to brain a deer at 20 yds, or engage several armed men (using cover, at more than 2-3 yds of distance) , the silenced 223 (with .22 lr conversion unit installed) is a much, much better choice than any handgun (silenced or not, powerful or not). Braced around a tree, or over a framepack , the silenced 22 unit/rifle can put a subsonic 60 gr Aquila bullet into each of 3 men at 100 yds, before they have a clue about what to do. Ditto for 4 of them at 50 yds, or 5 of them at 25 yds. I'll take such levels of effectiveness, over one loud shot from a bolt action, any day. :-) especially at dusk, or using luminous sights with the suckers all around a fire.

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you never heard of a survival rifle-tactics discussion? that's what this forum IS about, ya know. I"ve never had more than 2 drinks in 24 hours in my life, and the last alcohol I drank was 34 years ago. I've never used dope at all. all you guys and your 5-10 guns "for survival", I'm asking you how you'll HAVE the one you need? :-) You won't, so you'll have a horrible handicap, a lot of the time.

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It's rather like having only a screwdriver (ie, bolt action) when what you need is a machete (ie, belt fed mg, or auto 12 ga and buck). or vice versa. I'm saying that you need to realize that you ca'nt carry such an arsenal (and a BOB and enough ammo for each gun to make them worth having.) you aint got a crystal ball to tell you when you'll be shooting pronghorn at 200 yds, or prairie hens at 20 yds. You better not be telling every potential enemy (for a 2 mile radius) of yourarmed presense (ie, noisy gun) or scaring off the other critters, either. Not when getting meat is a critical issue.,

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so please enlighten us uninformed members here with your vast knowledge of what is best for us.

we're sitting on pins and needles, awaiting with baited breath to learn from someone as masterful as yourself.

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another one hoping and praying for SHTF situation to justify their need to feel superior?

today might turn out interesting after all!

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