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 06-05-2009, 06:58 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ashland, ohio Posts: 149 |  home remedies
does anyone know if the sugar treatment from shooter has any grounds? we were taught pretty well as far as medical treatment goes in the corps. although it all revolved around real medical equipment and supplies. anybody have any outside the box treatments for gunshots and outher trauma? __________________
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| 06-05-2009, 12:58 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Stafford, Virginia, The state of insanity. Posts: 14,049 |
refresh my memory on that sugar treatment? | |
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| 06-05-2009, 03:53 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ashland, ohio Posts: 149 |
i'm not really sure, they didn't go into detail about it. they said it has something to do with osmotic (spelling?) pressure. i'm not sure what that is. they treatment is supposedly old school medicine though. __________________
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| 06-05-2009, 08:12 PM | #4 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
Whiskey, honey, lemon juice a little boiling water and a cinnamon stick.
It may not fix a gunshot wound but it can't hurt.
Bacteria have enough food in a trauma like that, they don't need a butt load of sugar dumped into an open wound to help speed the infection along. | |
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| 06-06-2009, 01:39 AM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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Please note the man said HONEY, not sugar. Sugar has a minor osmotic effect on some bacteria, but as it gets diluted by body fluids, that drops off rapidly. When honey is diluted, its effectiveness as an antibiotic increases. This is due to an enzyme present in honey that produces- are you ready for this? Hydrogen peroxide. MUCH weaker than the stuff you buy in the store that WILL damage tissues.
Here is some reading for you. Bottom line- with all the drug resistant bugs out there, they are re-examining the use of honey. Effectiveness varies from one variety to another, but all have some effect. If you are in a situation where customary medical help is in short supply, you might remember this.
Honey as a topical antibacterial agent for treatment of infected wounds | |
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| 06-06-2009, 02:59 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ashland, ohio Posts: 149 |
so the point that they were trying to make in the movie was its use *s an antibiotic? hhmmm, very interesting. what is an osmotic effect though? __________________
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| 06-06-2009, 03:00 AM | #7 | I'm always 10-8 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 150 miles NE of Sloppy Joe's Bar, in the "GunShine" State Posts: 19,200 Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts
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Originally Posted by c3shooter
Please note the man said HONEY, not sugar. Sugar has a minor osmotic effect on some bacteria, but as it gets diluted by body fluids, that drops off rapidly. When honey is diluted, its effectiveness as an antibiotic increases. This is due to an enzyme present in honey that produces- are you ready for this? Hydrogen peroxide. MUCH weaker than the stuff you buy in the store that WILL damage tissues.
Here is some reading for you. Bottom line- with all the drug resistant bugs out there, they are re-examining the use of honey. Effectiveness varies from one variety to another, but all have some effect. If you are in a situation where customary medical help is in short supply, you might remember this.
Honey as a topical antibacterial agent for treatment of infected wounds |
Great old dog new tricks stuff c3!
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| 06-06-2009, 03:03 AM | #8 | I'm always 10-8 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 150 miles NE of Sloppy Joe's Bar, in the "GunShine" State Posts: 19,200 Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts
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so the point that they were trying to make in the movie was its use *s an antibiotic? hhmmm, very interesting. what is an osmotic effect though?
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Simply put, it is diffusion of water across a semipermeable membrane. __________________ .
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| 06-06-2009, 04:00 AM | #9 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rogers, AR Posts: 6,267 |
When I was a combat lifesaver I carried tampons after being advised by a medic. Tampons are good to stuff in the hole to stop the bleeding.
*I can't believe I just typed that*
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| 06-06-2009, 04:06 AM | #10 | I'm always 10-8 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 150 miles NE of Sloppy Joe's Bar, in the "GunShine" State Posts: 19,200 Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts
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When I was a combat lifesaver I carried tampons after being advised by a medic. Tampons are good to stuff in the hole to stop the bleeding.
*I can't believe I just typed that* Seriously though.
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