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Old 08-03-2008, 04:52 PM   #11
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If you have poor soil, collect grass clippings, chopped leaves, weeds, make a big pile, lightly dampen, turn over once a week. Makes the prettiest black topsoil you can imagine. Great book is "Square Foot Gardening" if you have limited room. Our garden is about 1/3 acre, plus orchard space. But we have had a heck of a garden in Colorado that was only 5 feet wide, wrapped around perimeter of back yard.
That book is/was a companion to a tv series on PBS by Mel Bartholomew, I think. Raise the beds higher or put them on a sturdy table for people who can't move well enough to maintain a ground level garden.
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I don't I can grow the heck out of flowers I have some that are in boxes on the porchs railing that are almost touching the ground.

Now I have done in the past some Tomatoes and Peppers but never got much off of them (Pot garden) No not pot pot but growning plants in pots. My soil is clay mixed with sand and a 1/4" of top soil I can hardly grow grass. Plus with my reloading room in the back yard I have a yard that is about 16' long by 8' wide. So no garden there.

My dad has a 1/2 acre garden with Almond trees and other fruit trees.

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The Troy-Bilt tiller I bought in 1987 is still going strong. In 1 hour I can turn a section of hard-packed lawn into a 10' x 30' vegetable garden with raised beds. Compost bin is a great addition. Every fall the garden scraps go into the bin. This year I didn't use any compost though, so I have everything I grew in my garden last year sprouting in my comppost bin! I must have 1000 tomato plants. Been pulling them like weeds.

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Tango- if you have sunlight, you have enuff room there to do square foot gardening. For container growing of tomatoes, problem is heat of sun on container bad for roots. Try a cheap foam cooler as your flowerpot. We tried container gardening using 24x24x2 sheets of foam insulation as box sides, 5 plants per container- had the suckers staked on beanpoles. Got about 200 lbs of tomatoes per box! No joke- 10 ft tall.

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Tried tomatoes this year, but they just dried up from the heat. Got nothing.

Go for canned goods... a lot easier!
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The Troy-Bilt tiller I bought in 1987 is still going strong. In 1 hour I can turn a section of hard-packed lawn into a 10' x 30' vegetable garden with raised beds. Compost bin is a great addition. Every fall the garden scraps go into the bin. This year I didn't use any compost though, so I have everything I grew in my garden last year sprouting in my comppost bin! I must have 1000 tomato plants. Been pulling them like weeds.
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Hmm, a canned good plant.... Must be in the specialty plant section!
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Man you can plant canned food? I didn't know that if you plant beef stew what does the plant look like?

When I get the place I want (25+ acres) I will have a big garden, with lots of good stuff and I will grow some oats, barley, and hopps. That way I can make my own fuel for the cars (LOL YAH RIGHT). The soil in my yard is crap I have added 1000# of top soil to my back yard and nothing will grow.

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Hmmm, so nobody grows Arugula for the Messiah? He's watching you know....
I'm starting a container garden this summer (the soil here sucks, too). I'm sure the first year will be disastrous other than tomatoes, but self-sufficiency is high on my to-do list. Potatoes, cauliflower, strawberries, green beans, soy beans and peas. Some other seeds. I'm also looking at canning. Water bath and pressure canning. Pickling, too.

Unfortunately, veggies only go so far. Without animal fat and protein, our long-term sustainability is doubtful. There's only so much game to go around.
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Unfortunately, veggies only go so far. Without animal fat and protein, our long-term sustainability is doubtful. There's only so much game to go around.
Who says vegans can't be game???
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