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saintrambone 05-01-2007 04:46 PM

Guns Obsolete In Coming Wars
Like a mathematical equation, the war is won or lost before it is ever fought.

You must consider this fact before you engage our mortal enemies who rule on American soil, and across both borders.

Technology is the equation of war at the highest points and it always has been. A man with a stick kills an unarmed man. A man with a spear kills a man with a stick. A man with a gun kills a man with a spear. A man with a decapacitating laser or nerve gas kills a man with a gun. A man with a satellite controlled weapon(s) kills a man with tear gas or a laser. A man who controls space in its outer core with directed lasers and control of mass and time kills a man with a mere satellite based weapon.

Once you realize this, you understand why we are nothing in the United States. We are like convicts and guns are only good for those at the bottom of the equation I have breifly outlined.

Do not always believe that what you are shooting at has been killed. Like the Wizard of Oz, some control what goes on down here, and you are left dancing like a puppet with your silly guns.

Beware also that Los Angeles gives a automatic felony for gun ownership and a 250,000 bail per gun. I hope their judges who allow this are killed, just like those who torture us in Alabama.

Welcome the coming war, but know that your guns are nothing in the higher equation of war.

Mobile Audit Club's, Kurt Brown -- Saint Ram Bone, former FDIC bank examiner who survived when other honest bank examiners were killed and labeled suicide. Casinos are drug lords are your best bet to take down, and nobody will care who dies.

Declaration Day 05-02-2007 01:50 AM

Saintrambone, thank you for your philosophic thread, but you're wrong.

Technology can help to efficiently eliminate specific targets, but it cannot overcome guerrilla warfare.

Feel free to disagree, but tell me then, why a bunch of rag-tag, dirt poor, drugged up third world revolutionaries have held back the best-equipped, best funded, most highly trained military in the world for four years.

DWARREN123 05-02-2007 03:54 AM

You don't own the land until you stand on it with weapon in hand.

notdku 05-02-2007 04:33 AM

I think this thread is just a plug for his website. Saying guns are going to be obsolete is completely false, it's just an attention grabber.

bkt 05-02-2007 10:35 AM


Like a mathematical equation, the war is won or lost before it is ever fought.
Respectfully, that's not correct. We won the revolutionary war but it was never certain that we would. Many events took place due to dumb luck that helped our side enormously.

Viet Nam was won militarily but lost ideologically.

Now, if there is no such thing as chaos or uncertainty in your world -- just very complex, very long but knowable equations -- that's fine. My world's a little different.

I'm pretty sure my neighbors and others living in and around my area are not in control of space-borne weapons systems. Owning an AR15 is about protecting me and my family from thugs. Taking on the Marines wasn't on my agenda.

Declaration Day 05-03-2007 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Goldfinger (Post 744)
They are being betrayed and killed by President Bush and his idiot yes-men in Washington.

.....Who seem to be more concerned with not offending muslims than winning a war.

bkt 05-03-2007 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Declaration Day (Post 749)
.....Who seem to be more concerned with not offending muslims than winning a war.

You noticed that too, eh? :mad:

RONSERESURPLUS 05-16-2007 11:15 PM

Guns obsolete in Coming wars?
Hello all

Ron L here = Seresurplus

With all due respect to the origional potser, he is WRONG! Been all over the word, foungt in my share of wars, and One thing always matters in the ned? That of Boots on the ground! You can have all the High Tec, Special ops BS, in the end, it's the Grunt, On the ground with that rifle that makes the difference! The difference between ASrmed folks in a disaster and Unarmed folks? The armed folks are the WAR, the Folks without are refugees! Its that Simple?


Brent L 05-25-2007 04:40 PM

Saintrambone, is this your personal philosophy, or is it like Notdku said, a cheap plug for your website? I, quite frankly, find your ramblings to be incoherent and your position on ultimate control indefensible.

billy_the_kid43 06-04-2007 04:44 PM

Wrong you are.
To the original poster,

Unfortunately, you seem to have forgotten one very important fact when it comes to defending yourself from a tyrannous government. The truth is that we all are depending on the history of man to repeat itself. When a government attempts to remove certain liberties, the people rise up and attempt to overthrow the government. In the process of overthrowing such governments, you temporarily disable the use of weapons that can defeat the free public. We are all assuming if the time arises to defend certain liberties, we would be doing it to a government that is not completely in control of itself and therefore vulnerable to attack. With this being the case, then the use of firearms and a well planned attack should be all it takes to defend against governments that would use satellites to defeat its own people.

It will be a sad day if the time ever arises again for the people to defend their civil liberties against its own government, but hopefully all free men will rise to the occasion and work in unison for the same keep free citizens uncaged!

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