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Old 12-10-2012, 02:44 AM   #21
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You may also think about spare on/off relay switches and a spare pair of carbon brushes. Even though you have a genny and fuel you can still be caught with your pants down. That and don't over exert your genny, learn to rest it occasionally. I work for a concrete equipment company and we sell the robin subaru line. Very strong genny constantly being worked at full load. Diesel is best, and most durable too.

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You may also think about spare on/off relay switches and a spare pair of carbon brushes. Even though you have a genny and fuel you can still be caught with your pants down. That and don't over exert your genny, learn to rest it occasionally. I work for a concrete equipment company and we sell the robin subaru line. Very strong genny constantly being worked at full load. Diesel is best, and most durable too.
Yes very good idea!

May I also recommend buying or confirming your generator has a backfeed circuit breaker if your hooking it up to your house feed. Basically it prevents power from energizing back into the street level lines. Many many lineman have been electrocuted fixing downed/dead lines when someone's generator pops on.
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Now THAT^^^ is a generator!!!

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If you have an airtight tank you can pull a vacuum on you can extend that life even further.
Interesting, never heard of this. Do you have specific info?
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Thanks guys. Lots of good info.

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That fuel stabilizer is called K100 its capatable with most every fuel and oil combination out there . They make a treatment for long term storage called K100MG and they also make diesel stabilizers with anti gels

http://www.k100fueltreatment.com/stabilizer.html

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Gasoline.

Even treated gas will only last reliably for 12-24 months in well sealed
containers. High octane, alcohol free fuels will do the best.

Diesel.

Diesel can store well for up to 10 years in sealed containers. Treating it
is a good idea. Biocide and anti-oxidant. #2 Non-biodiesel is the best but
may have gelling issues in colder weather.

I am upgrading all my primary equipment to diesel engines. Lister and
Listeroid engines are good back ups.

This should arrive Wednedsay.

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/enginedriven/product.php?model=M00186

Upgrading from my Trailblazer 302 gas engine, that unit is already sold.
both have 10kW of aux power, I regularly back feed my house or shop as
needed when the power fails.

BTW, I am a chemist and work for http://www.aftonchemical.com/Pages/Home.aspx

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Mmmmm, if only I had that money. Sounds like a good plan. Never heard of a Lister or Listeroid engine

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Mmmmm, if only I had that money. Sounds like a good plan. Never heard of a Lister or Listeroid engine
http://diesel-electric.us/

http://diesel-electric.us/cs_clones.htm

This is one of the better sites but search the net, the supply is getting tight
like everything else.
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Interesting, never heard of this. Do you have specific info?
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/australia/corporate_australia/STAGING/local_assets/downloads_pdfs/f/Long_Term_Storage_ADF.pdf

Just about everything that degrades diesel comes from oxidation or condensation. Some storage tank metallurgy can factor into that if zinc, copper or alloys that contain those metals are in contact with the fuel so use steel or cast ball valves and fittings wherever you can. Removing the atmosphere removes the chances of oxidation or condensation because there is no way for fresh oxygen or water to enter the equation. A good sealed container under atmospheric pressure still has a certain amount of oxygen and water vapor in it so a small amount of degradation of the fuel will happen unless the tank is constantly filled to the brim.
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http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/australia/corporate_australia/STAGING/local_assets/downloads_pdfs/f/Long_Term_Storage_ADF.pdf

Just about everything that degrades diesel comes from oxidation or condensation. Some storage tank metallurgy can factor into that if zinc, copper or alloys that contain those metals are in contact with the fuel so use steel or cast ball valves and fittings wherever you can. Removing the atmosphere removes the chances of oxidation or condensation because there is no way for fresh oxygen or water to enter the equation. A good sealed container under atmospheric pressure still has a certain amount of oxygen and water vapor in it so a small amount of degradation of the fuel will happen unless the tank is constantly filled to the brim.
Or you can purge the tank with Argon or CO2 prior to sealing it up...
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