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Old 07-21-2009, 09:38 PM   #11
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Bowie Machetes : Cold Steel (Fixed Blade)
While it obviously does not fall into what I just said above (for 12" length), it also has the obvious advantage of reach and greater chopping and slashing ability than the other knives I've been looking at. I just wanted to see what you guys thought of it.

Shanghai Shadow : Fighting Knives (Fixed Blade)
This one seems to be well-suited for combat and specifically piercing, though I've read that for novices, the second edge can be more of a danger to the wielder than to the other party. And as a survival knife, the second edge might be pretty much useless for simple cutting tasks, it would lessen the efficiency of tapping the back of the blade to make deep cuts, and it would still likely endanger the user's hands.

Bushman Series : Fixed Blade (Cold Steel Knives)
The Bushman knives seem like a nice general-purpose blade, and there probably really isn't anything wrong with them functionally. I don't know if Id ever try to make a spear out of it unless I had little better to do, but I guess its nice to know the option is there? Their test video is very impressive, though.

G.I. Tanto : Fighting Knives (Fixed Blade)
This just seems like a generally good blade for my purposes. I kinda wish it had a Clip point, but the Tanto would work just fine Im sure.



From other research I found that overall the best hand weapon for a novice would be a simple bludgeon (pipe, bat, etc). After that, I cut a section of 1"-diameter, 1/8" wall steel tubing about 20" long. I wrapped about 5" of it with nylon rope to serve as a handle, and welded a plug into the other end to add a little weight and prevent it from being crushed in on hard impacts. It is about 2lbs total, maybe a couple ounces less. I don't have a sheath for it yet, but I'll likely make one that attaches to my belt and thight. If, for whatver reason, my firearms were not available for use, would I be better off pulling out my pipe (teehee), or would you guys recommend a good ~7" blade with which I've had some practice? Or should I use the pipe, but still get a blade suitable for SD should I ever need it?

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Do you guys have anything as far as all my other questions go? I have only been looking at fixed-blades.
Okay, the good news is that you are looking at knives from a really great company in Cold Steel. The problem is, most of their budget knives, like the GI Tanto and the Shadow are from their economy line which is not indicative of the true quality they can produce.

You are looking at knives that are $30 to $50 and a lot of these are stamped out of steel and put together assembly line style.

That is not a recipe I want with my number one knife.

The bushman is a tragic example of a knife. It might work fine as a spear, but as a knife, it's very thin, and while it's sharp, it won't hold an edge very long if you have to use the thing.

Look at their San Mai line, or at the very least take a look at their SK-5 steel blades, they are MUCH better suited for what you want.

Also, check out their Outdoorsman Tanto, it can be had for about $125 from someplace like www.1sks.com

With a field knife, a full tang, a good quality steel with a high carbon count is going to last you a lot longer than some stamped piece of crap.



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There, does that meet your high standards?? We can't all be experts on every subject, and even when we have input, we do have other duties and lives to attend too as well.

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Ah, thank you!

Though, thinking about it, I don't know if Ill need to get a larger knife. I don't ever really plan on getting in any sort of "knife fight," and if I were to get in a hand-to-hand fight I think I'd feel more confident with my Club thing. So, realistically, I have little need for something with the extended reach, as I can baton (ha, I remembered the term!) reasonably thick stuff (obviously, up to 3.5" thick), and I probably won't be messing with any animals that require greater than a 3.5" knife to field dress, heh.

That said, I'll probably either stick with my Gerber, or perhaps even get a decent 4" folder?

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Personally, I'd go with a better quality knife. 4-5" length from Bark River. They use A-2 tool steel, full tang.

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I ordered a Cold Steel Recon 1 (Plain Clip Blade) Friday.

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Isn't the Recon 1 from their folder line?? Where did you order it from?

Nothing wrong with the choice, their blades are quite strong and VERY effing sharp, but I thought you wanted a real "field knife"?

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Yes it is a folder. I bought it because I decided I wanted something I could carry everyday, meaning I'd always have it on me. As I said, I did typically carry a fixed-blade, though if I wear lighter-colored dress pants it would print very obviously against my pocket, and I'd have to carry one of my cheap folders. Thus, I decided it would be good to get a nice knife that I know I'd have all the time, that was also tough enough to be used in a variety of harsh situations. Kindof like carry pistols: a 1911 is great, but it's of no use if it's left in the safe because it was too big to conceal with that particular day's outfit.

As far as durability and utility goes, the only thing I feel a good folder couldn't do (very well) that a good fixed-blade could do is mild prying. However, I'm thinking I'll replace my baton with a strait prybar and be good in that aspect. I don't think I would try to do a lot of chopping with any knife (other than bending and chopping small saplings and branches), as even my limited experience tells me it is much more tiresome than batoning and is a good way to get blisters or at least make the hand sore. Though I think I might replace my baton with a strait pry-bar and that will just about cover my prying and hammering needs.



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Additionally, I decided against a large fixed blade because a folder is less threatening than a fixed-blade, in all situations from traffic stops to military road blocks in the early stages of a zombie apocolypse. I realized I don't think I'd ever try to do any fighting with a large knife in any situation where I'd be carrying said large knife, as Id at least have my pistol and baton (or perhaps prybar) with me if out camping / hiking. While I do realize that one of the large, more expensive knives ($200-$600) from Cold Steel could perform the tasks mention (chopping, prying, hammering, clubbing, etc) with reasonable success on its own, I don't think I can justify that expense (minimum $130ish) when I can simply carry an extra pound or two of gear that can do just about all the jobs just as well, if not better for some of them, than a single large blade could do.

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That's good thinking. Every man should have a good, reliable, strong, sharp pocket knife.

I happen to have more than one, so I frequently give knives as gifts to friends who don't.

Being without a knife is like being without your wallet - what real good are you to the rest of us??

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