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Old 02-15-2013, 12:40 AM   #31
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Well, if things got that bad and I couldn't get a prescription for an infection and all I had was some fish antibiotics...I'd take them as long as the bottle stated it was USP (Pharmaceutical Grade). How many different ways is there to make Cipro??
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Saw this today and thought Y'all might like to read it. Seems that stockpiling antibiotics might not make any difference in the long run anyhow.

link: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/03/16/antibiotic-resistance-could-bring-end-of-modern-medicine/

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As bacteria evolve to evade antibiotics, common infections could become deadly, according to Dr. Margaret Chan, director general of the World Health Organization.

Speaking at a conference in Copenhagen, Chan said antibiotic resistance could bring about “the end of modern medicine as we know it.”

“We are losing our first-line antimicrobials,” she said Wednesday in her keynote address at the conference on combating antimicrobial resistance. “Replacement treatments are more costly, more toxic, need much longer durations of treatment, and may require treatment in intensive care units.”

Chan said hospitals have become “hotbeds for highly-resistant pathogens” like methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, “increasing the risk that hospitalization kills instead of cures.”

Indeed, diseases that were once curable, such as tuberculosis, are becoming harder and more expensive to treat.

Chan said treatment of multidrug resistant tuberculosis was “extremely complicated, typically requiring two years of medication with toxic and expensive medicines, some of which are in constant short supply. Even with the best of care, only slightly more than 50 percent of these patients will be cured.”

Antibiotic-resistant strains of salmonella, E. coli, and gonorrhea have also been discovered.

“Some experts say we are moving back to the pre-antibiotic era. No. This will be a post-antibiotic era. In terms of new replacement antibiotics, the pipeline is virtually dry,” said Chan. “A post-antibiotic era means, in effect, an end to modern medicine as we know it. Things as common as strep throat or a child’s scratched knee could once again kill.”

The dearth of effective antibiotics could also make surgical procedures and certain cancer treatments risky or even impossible, Chan said.

“Some sophisticated interventions, like hip replacements, organ transplants, cancer chemotherapy and care of preterm infants, would become far more difficult or even too dangerous to undertake,” she said.

The development of new antibiotics now could help stave off catastrophe later. But few drug makers are willing to invest in drugs designed for short term use.

“It’s simply not profitable for them,” said Dr. William Schaffner, chairman of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. “If you create a new drug to reduce cholesterol, people will be taking that drug every day for the rest of their lives. But you only take antibiotics for a week or maybe 10 days.”

Schaffner likened the dilemma to Ford releasing a car that could only be driven if every other vehicle wasn’t working.

“While we try to encourage the pharmaceutical industry to create new antibiotics, we have to be very prudent in their use,” he said.

But there are ways to limit the potential for bacteria to develop antibiotic resistance: Use antibiotics appropriately and only when needed; follow treatment correctly; and restrict the use of antibiotics in food production to therapeutic purposes.

“At a time of multiple calamities in the world, we cannot allow the loss of essential antimicrobials, essential cures for many millions of people, to become the next global crisis,” said Chan.
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Screw that.
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Screw that.


I hate to say it, but that is, at this point in time, the only open avenue going forward that I can see. That could change tomorrow or there might already be another alternative I dont know about. What I do know, is that the nano-bot technolegy is growing in ability nd prolifiration at an incredible rate. Fortunantly (or maybe unfortunantly) the continued expanse of research and development in this will lower prices as time progresses.

I do understand and appreciate the fears though...I just cant offer an alternative. Sorry
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I hate to say it, but that is, at this point in time, the only open avenue going forward that I can see. That could change tomorrow or there might already be another alternative I dont know about. What I do know, is that the nano-bot technolegy is growing in ability nd prolifiration at an incredible rate. Fortunantly (or maybe unfortunantly) the continued expanse of research and development in this will lower prices as time progresses.

I do understand and appreciate the fears though...I just cant offer an alternative. Sorry
Yanno, I have successfully used alternatives so far. A few weeks ago I got rid of a wart on my scalp using Frankincense. In the past I would have used that acid stuff to burn it off. The Frankincense actually kills the virus (warts are actually a virus).

Frankincense has been around for thousands of years and it still works. Modern antibiotics have been around for less than 100 Nanobots are still in development with no track record yet.

I'll stick with what has worked for thousands of years. Ifit was good enough to give to the Christ Child on His birth, its good enough for me (and I'm not even religious!)
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