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Old 02-13-2013, 04:58 PM   #11
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My brother starting taking meds that were used on horses. He ain't dead yet, he believes in the fish oil and such. I can't recall what he said I need to rebuild the knees but he takes it daily, the same stuff they give race horses. A lot of women use the shampoo that are made for show horses....

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This thread go me thinking about shelf life of drugs. Which led to me finding this:


http://www.terrierman.com/antibiotics-WSJ.htm

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Do drugs really stop working after the date stamped on the bottle?

Fifteen years ago, the U. S. military decided to find out. Sitting on a $1 billion stockpile of drugs and facing the daunting process of destroying and replacing its supply every two to three years, the military began a testing program to see if it could extend the life of its inventory.

The testing, conducted by the U. S. Food and Drug Administration, ultimately covered more than 100 drugs, prescription and over-the-counter. The results, never before reported, show that about 90% of them were safe and effective far past their original expiration date, at least one for 15 years past it.

In light of these results, a former director of the testing program, Francis Flaherty, says he has concluded that expiration dates put on by manufacturers typically have no bearing on whether a drug is usable for longer.

Mr. Flaherty notes that a drug maker is required to prove only that a drug is still good on whatever expiration date the company chooses to set. The expiration date doesn't mean, or even suggest, that the drug will stop being effective after that, nor that it will become harmful.


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Every time I hear someone say they are stocking up on fish antibiotics it makes me ask why don't they just ask a doctor for a prescription. It is better quality cheaper and comes in those handy bottles. Just my .02
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Most doctors won't just hand over a prescription for an antibiotic due to liability and overuse. It may not even be legal for them to write one without a diagnosis. Going to the doc and saying "Can I have a 6-month scrip for an antibiotic so I can stockpile it for prepping?" will probably get you laughed out of the office.
Therhino is right. A doctor shouldn't just freely write a prescription just because a patient wants it. They have to justify what they write if asked. I would switch doctors, personally, if I thought mine was freely writing 'scripts for whoever and whatever.

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My brother starting taking meds that were used on horses. He ain't dead yet, he believes in the fish oil and such. I can't recall what he said I need to rebuild the knees but he takes it daily, the same stuff they give race horses. A lot of women use the shampoo that are made for show horses....
DMSO for bad knees, I think.
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This thread, and the info within the links it contains should be stickied!

So reading through the information, and guess what? Bactrim (a popular anti-biotic for those alergic to the penecilin family) is exactly what Fish Sulfa Forte is! Sulfadimethoxazole 800mg, Triethoprim 160mg!

That blew my mind! Im on bactrim right now! Sorry, little excited. This is all new to me...

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Works great if your gills get infected!

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Works great if your gills get infected!
More of a scale infection...on my left leg, er I mean left "fin"

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I haven't used antibiotics for a couple of years now and don't plan on using them again. I have been using essential oils that have natural antibiotic properties without the dangerous side effects of producing superbugs. So far I have successfully treated an infected tooth (got a root canal on it, but treated it with Myrrh and Clove oils for infection and pain respectively). Treated a sinus infection with saline flush that had Eucalyptus, Rosemary and Frankinsense oils.

So far so good, and no drugs!
How do you feel about oil of oregano ? It has helped me in the past and just a great boost for the immune system overall.
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How do you feel about oil of oregano ? It has helped me in the past and just a great boost for the immune system overall.
I use it with my pizza and keep it next to the parseley, sage, rosemary and thyme.
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I randomly tuned into the Patriot Nurse channel on YouTube and she does a full blown 15 minute video on the benefits of various antibiotics to have on hand just in case. Says it could be a true life saver if needed.....and something nobody thinks of.

I scooped up a bottle of Ampicillin myself. Its a very useful general anti that can cure up most bacterial infections. Cant hurt. Good for 3 years. And yes its the EXACT same drug they prescribe for humans. For those commenting about just getting a doctor RX, well, it aint that easy unless you personally know a doc. They dont just hand out scripts of antibiotics most times....requires a visit and a reason.

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I haven't used antibiotics for a couple of years now and don't plan on using them again. I have been using essential oils that have natural antibiotic properties without the dangerous side effects of producing superbugs. So far I have successfully treated an infected tooth (got a root canal on it, but treated it with Myrrh and Clove oils for infection and pain respectively). Treated a sinus infection with saline flush that had Eucalyptus, Rosemary and Frankinsense oils.

So far so good, and no drugs!
That's good stuff that everyone needs to keep in mind. Penicillin use to work on just about everything and then the bugs got used to it and now it rarely works. That's largely due to it being over prescribed for too many years and people not taking the full course of it after they started it. Antibiotics are nothing to play with and they shouldn't be used unless absolutely necessary.

In addition to creating superbugs, they can also really mess up the good bacteria in your gut and cause all sorts of digestive problems.
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