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Old 11-10-2008, 04:16 AM   #11
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anyone know if the blood stop powder you can get for animals would be ok on humans? its like 3 times as much powder for like $20....

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Benadryl is a good one to have on hand. Good for allergies, allergic reactions, and also works well as a sedative.

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anyone know if the blood stop powder you can get for animals would be ok on humans? its like 3 times as much powder for like $20....
The quickstop powder for animals is not the same as quickclot by Z-MEDICA. The animal stuff is for bleeding toe nails and slight wounds not arterial bleeding. A good antibacterial agent is SMZ/TMP, it is also fairly good against MRSA(the penicillin resistant staph). I would also keep silver sulfadine wound ointment,betadine solution, benadryl, pain meds of your choice, suture material(a fine monofilament fish line works good), a pair of forceps to pull out foreign objects and use as needle holder for suturing,bandage material,lidocaine, IV set and sterile NaCl, matches or lighter. I think most of this can be purchased OTC or from Vet supply.
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Amoxicilin, Keflex, and Tamiflu. Also, some serious pain meds are in order, morphine, oxicodone and Fentanyl. Quick clot is indespesible, but learn how to use it and follow the directions. Other than that, I'd make sure you have the standard CPR barrier mask and assortment of gauze, bandages and maxi-pads.
I would hope that anyone planning on performing any medical procedure or dispensing medication to anyone (especially your own family) get the proper training. Even OTC medications can have significant side effects if not properly handled.

Just like firearms training, first aid/EMT/medical training is invaluable and will allow you to make better decisions and know what to do when an issue presents itself.
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how do u obtain these medical supplies, i wouldnt think a doctor would just hand out anti-biotics, pain meds ect.. just because you askd for them

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how do u obtain these medical supplies, i wouldnt think a doctor would just hand out anti-biotics, pain meds ect.. just because you askd for them
It's not difficult to obtain them through grey market type deals. If nothing else, there are veterinary equivalents of most human medicines. They don't meet FDA purity requirements, but they'll work just as well. Also, there is a doctor/PA/LPN somewhere near you that is sympathetic to your cause.
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Will a doc just had out prescriptions willy nilly? No, However, my doc has known me for years, know that I hike and backpack/camp in very remote areas- and since I have to have blood work every 6 months, pretty well knows that am not abusing them.

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Default Many of the meds can be had over the counter

Don't overlook cough and cold medicines (mucinex is WONDERFUL - feel free to buy store brand generic versions); tooth ache / care meds and some kind of burn treatment ( Amazon offers a surprising array of meds, sutures and a plethora of medical supplies - including WaterJel products for burn victims).

Keep feminine hygiene maxi pads and tampons for trauma dressings. The tampons are good to plug wounds, absorb a lot of blood and have a string for easier removal. The small tampons plug rifle wounds remarkable well, and the large tampons work well for large caliber / shotgun slug wounds.

Don't forget some kind of splints, ace-style wraps and a way to stabilize / immobilize fractures.

Do some 'net searches on holistic / herbal medicines and treatments.

Obtain colloidal silver for external antibiotic applications. Neosporin antibiotic cream ( often sold generically as "triple antibiotic ointment" ), as well as cortisone ointments and gels /ointments for a myriad of problems are very inexpensive and will be worth their weight in gold in any true survival situation.

For tooth aches you will want "oil of cloves."

Many remarkable drugs are over the counter now that their patent has worn off ( think Tagamet/cimetadine). These meds work just as well as the new really expensive, prescription only meds, but you can get them without any hassle.

DO BUY A PDR ( Physician's Desk Reference) in hardback. Well worth the money, it lists all medicines currently available in the US with dosing instructions, side effects and contraindications.

Do include your friends in SHTF discussions, because we all have different skills and working in small teams increases everyone's chance of survival. In my circle of friends, for example, are two cattle ranchers, two pharamcy technicians, three Registered Nurses, two Licensed Practical Nurses, several local Law Enforcement Officers, an agricultural consultant who works for the State as a resource for local farmers, and several people with military skills that will be very handy. We try to coordinate our purchases for supplies so that we don't wind up with a hundred tubes of burn cream and no trauma dressings.

There are so many more tips - some common sense and some specific knowledge related to training - that one can't list them all here.

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Will a doc just had out prescriptions willy nilly? No, However, my doc has known me for years, know that I hike and backpack/camp in very remote areas- and since I have to have blood work every 6 months, pretty well knows that am not abusing them.
Exactly. I had an Epi-pen prescribed to me to keep in my first aid kit because I was able to explain to the doctor that I would spend weeks at a time in the back country and needed one to potentially save someone's life.
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Yeah, I was interested in these after seeing them for sale somewhere. I'd like a link to them, if someone has purchased them. I forget where I saw them for sale...
you can get them from Cabelas, Cheaper than Dirt, Sportsman's Guide etc.
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