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Old 08-31-2010, 06:18 PM   #41
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Instead of holding the firesteel still and striking down with the knife, hold the knife still and pull up the firesteel. That way you won't scatter your tinder (it's also safer because the sharp knife isn't moving), apply some pressure for better results. Will get to all of this in detail later.

I caught on to that trick after awhile. I think I need some better tinder, and I'll try that cotton Vaseline combo also.

You mentioned friction and spark, would a mag glass be under spark? And is that just too easy? Can't always count on haveing "Piggy" on the island?
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Two hours for FIRE!!

I had rained all day yesterday, that cold drizzeling coastal endless rain that soaks everything!







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So I gathered some tinder and an old Altoids tin.





I cut three pieces of pillow ticking and cooked 'em good. If you shoot BP, you know what ticking is!

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I shaved some tinder and started the char with a spark from the fire steel.



Almost all burned out before I could get the camera on and get this shot!!



Thank you Francisco !!!!!

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Got home from work and the boy wanted to start a fire. He wanted to use the Vaseline Cotton Balls.

I let him take a short cut and use a metal match.

A quick lesson with the metal match and this is what happened.

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That was really cool Shi!

I really liked the "that's how ya do it boys!"

Way to go!

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I LOVE THAT VIDEO!!!! That is the smartest lil man I know yes of course I am biased because he belongs to meeeeeee!!!!

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Francisco, this has come together great. Thanks for taking the time to organize this for us!

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Oh, come on mate. You know this isn't just me. A bunch of people each did their part behind the scenes to get this going. I shouldn't take all the credit. Benning, IGETEVEN, Bear, Cane and yourself did a lot of the work (I hope I'm not forgetting anybody).


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You mentioned friction and spark, would a mag glass be under spark? And is that just too easy? Can't always count on haveing "Piggy" on the island?
A magnifying glass is a complex piece of equipment in a primitive setting. It's a modern way to start a fire. Lenses (magnifying glasses, convex lenses, etc.) are a very valid fire starting method, but percussion and friction are the two primitive methods par excellence. I also thought that most people had played around with a magnifying glass and had some experience with it, so I left it out (I couldn't include everything).

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Two hours for FIRE!!

I had rained all day yesterday, that cold drizzeling coastal endless rain that soaks everything!
If you can get fire in that damp weather, you can get it anywhere. Well done!

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Got home from work and the boy wanted to start a fire. He wanted to use the Vaseline Cotton Balls.
Shi, it's great to see your kid involved with this. You'll be amazed at how quickly he learns. Congratulations to you and RSG for raising him to understand the value of self-responsibility and self-reliance.

Just a couple of quick technical tips if I may. Open up the cotton ball to expose the inner part, open it up as much as possible to get a lot of surface. It will catch a spark easier and it will also burn longer with a bigger flame. And when using the ferro rod, keep the striker still and pull back on the firesteel.

I'm really excited about the second lesson: friction firecraft! We'll start using our knives to build some fire starters and try some methods that are more challenging but need nothing more than a few branches.
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I have not tried fire starting again but I have a four day weekend in the mountains to “get er done”.

I did cook up some char-cloth to take along. Like Troy I did not have a tin so put the mind to improve mode. I was impressed with Troy’s coke can creation, but decided to go even more primitive. So I just folded up some tin foil to make it extra thick and wrapped up some gun patches. Kept the fire very low and cooked em up slow. All in all the plan worked out just fine untill the girlfriend got home and smelled the kitchen. I have a good ventilation set-up and the patches still stank up the house.

Note to anyone else with a SO that is going to try this; Do your cooking on the barbe outside, or throw some extra blankets out in the dog house. You’ll be needing them.

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