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Old 05-09-2012, 01:31 AM   #1
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A coworker was commenting on a recent news story. Apparently the city of Detroit decided to let old abandon buildings burn rather than put out the fires. My coworker's comments reminded me of a documentary that showed some of those old abandoned buildings before they were abandoned. Many of them were grand and beautiful places 50 years ago. Today, I couldn't help but to wonder if that's what the fall of Rome looked like? I also couldn't help but to wonder how many other city's will share the same fate?

There are ghost towns that resulted from running out of natural resources like gold or silver, but I can't think of anything like the decline of so many cities in the "Rust Belt", other than the Fall of Rome. I also can't help but to think the trend is going to continue. I figured GM was on the way out when it announced Oldsmobile was going extinct. It only made sense that rest of the corporation would go the same way since the same people that ran a once great company like Oldsmobile into the ground were the same people managing the rest of the corporation. Now I'm thinking the same thing about the rest of the country. Are the people that run all of the other industries and city/state governments any different than those in Detroit?

So is this what the decline of an Empire looks like, or is Detroit and the Rust Belt an anomaly?

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"All good things must come to an end" is just the first of many phrases that come to mind.

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even Rome fell! and they one of the biggest empires in the world.

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Detroit has had a democrat for mayors since 1962. So for the last 50 years Detroit has been crumbling under democrat rule, anybody see a correlation?

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Detroit has had a democrat for mayors since 1962. So for the last 50 years Detroit has been crumbling under democrat rule, anybody see a correlation?
The United States will follow Detroit's path if we don't steer it now.
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The United States will follow Detroit's path if we don't steer it now.
Agreed. The time to act is now and if we don't, our nation is doomed to suffer the same fate as so many others.

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The citizens of this once-great nation are too bipolar to change the course of internal destruction. Corporations got wind of the deterioration of country's education system and bailed for the strengths of smarter nations.

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Detroit has recieved mega bailouts to help with this problem, more proof that said bailouts didn't work as we were told. Detroit was made by the industry that surrounds making cars. The libs have been running the show there for years as well as the unions. This is what happens when they are in charge folks.

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I've lived in Detroit area for most of my life. The problem is a multi faceted complex issue, but will add that Detroit (aka the economic engine) has tended to be a bell weather for the entire country... But I digress

Two big issues have driven Detroit's issues.

1. the union stranglehold on the city's workers with ridiculous work rules and absolutely no incentive to do things better or faster. I remember my ex father in law trying to sell his home and the city's inspector visiting the house 4 times to approve, JUST THE FURNACE. He didn't have to pay for each trip, only the low $20 inspection fee, but they sure made it worth their while to keep coming out.

2. Detroit is actually a small portion of the Metro Detroit area. The surrounding suburbs expanded unmitigated, financed by the state and feds. Commonly referred to as white flight. The area expanded out more than the population required, with the population in the city significantly dropping, while the services did not.

With all this is going on, the city kept borrowing to meet their budgets, the fraud went on steroids, tax paying citizens kept moving out, schools got worse... etc. It is in a downward spiral that has led to a popular reverend making the very public statement, we will burn this city to the ground before we allow the state to take over.

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