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Old 11-25-2012, 03:18 PM   #151
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I will buy more ammo for my guns once I have bought my SKS. Planning on buying 100-200 rounds of 20 gauge buckshot/slug mix. 550 rounds of .22lr round nose. 880+ rounds of 7.62x54R FMJ and AP mix. Also my goal for 7.69x39 is at least 1,000 rounds FMJ. I don't really ever shoot my stock pile ammo whenever I wanna shoot I go out and buy a box of ammo to shoot.

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I will buy more ammo for my guns once I have bought my SKS. Planning on buying 100-200 rounds of 20 gauge buckshot/slug mix. 550 rounds of .22lr round nose. 880+ rounds of 7.62x54R FMJ and AP mix. Also my goal for 7.69x39 is at least 1,000 rounds FMJ. I don't really ever shoot my stock pile ammo whenever I wanna shoot I go out and buy a box of ammo to shoot.
Ruger22, if you're AP is refering to armour peircing, and IIRC, that type of ammo is highly illegal.

hopefully someone can step in and either verify or dispute this.
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Ruger;
Buy quantity of each at a time rather than a little of this and that to save money. Buy a whole flat of #3 buckshot for that 20 ga., not 4 boxes of this and 4 of that. The slugs, if you can be convinced to buy fewer, are porobably very cheap at Walmart now as it's hunting season.

Yes, reloading is great, almost exclusively for when I use micrometer dies for competition loads and for obsolete cartridges most gun owners have never heard of nor many here. I say that because I am honest, including with myself, about the amortization and consumable costs. "Well, the new Hazardous Goods fee is a sunk cost I wouldn't pay all of if I bought my powder at a brick-n-mortar store so I don't count that." Yeah, OK!

Also have more presses than I need -- got rid of one of my Forster's*, a little RCBS (maybe it was a Redding?), my .458x2 (.458 American) and other superfluous dies with cases (that's just the EXTRA .22 Hornet stuff I got rid of altogether below for example), extra loading trays and ammo boxes, molds and handles, as well as a bullet sizer/luber over the past few years to made-desperate people. Woulda given them to my BIL but he's a lazy, lying, POS...

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What I understand is that it is okay to buy AP ammo but not for handgun ammo. I know that in Ohio last time I checked it was okay. Was actually planning on buying it all in bulk.

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Buy quantity of each at a time rather than a little of this and that to save money. Buy a whole flat of #3 buckshot for that 20 ga., not 4 boxes of this and 4 of that. The slugs, if you can be convinced to buy fewer, are porobably very cheap at Walmart now as it's hunting season.

Yes, reloading is great, almost exclusively for when I use micrometer dies for competition loads and for obsolete cartridges most gun owners have never heard of. I say that because I am honest, including with myself, about the amortization and consumable costs. "Well, the new Hazardous Goods fee is a sunk cost so I don't count that." Yeah, OK. Also have more presses than I need -- sold one of my Forsters, a little RCBS, and a bullet sizer/luber over the past few years to desperate people. Woulda given them to my BIL but he's a lazy, lying, POS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=auxc_rNOy9Y
actually i can dispute that handloading doesn't save money. the premium ammo for my rifle in 280 Remington costs about $46 per box of 20 of the Winchester Ballistic Silvertip ammo.

using my reloading cost calculator i came up with these figures.
powder cost for 1 lb. $30.00
primers per 100 $4.00
bullets per 100 $26.00
brass per 50 $28.00

cost per reloaded box of 20 is $22.34

using the same cost calculator and factoring in for the next time i reload the same brass, my cost per 20 comes down to $11.14 per 20 for reloaded ammo

so at a cost of $46.00 per 20 of factory premium loaded ammo, and if i bought brass everytime, i still save at least half and once i have brass, my costs shrink to less than a fourth of the cost of factory ammo.

i also don't factor in HazMat fees, because i pick up my powder and primers at my LGS.
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What I understand is that it is okay to buy AP ammo but not for handgun ammo. I know that in Ohio last time I checked it was okay. Was actually planning on buying it all in bulk.
As I understand it (just some schlub on the internet) you can buy different sorts of "AP" ammunition, and you can buy pulled "AP" bullets, but once you start reloading your own with "AP" projectiles then you are manufacturing which is where it becomes illegal. Buying bulk AP ammo is OK.
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Years ago at a gun show, a guy was selling reloaded .308. I asked the legality of it, he said he had to pull the bullets, dump the powder, then reload it to be legal. I didn't buy any, hell I didn't even have a .308.

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Yes buying bulk AP ammo is what I was planning on doing.

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What I understand is that it is okay to buy AP ammo but not for handgun ammo. I know that in Ohio last time I checked it was okay. Was actually planning on buying it all in bulk.
Most rifle rounds are AP anyways.
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Years ago at a gun show, a guy was selling reloaded .308. I asked the legality of it, he said he had to pull the bullets, dump the powder, then reload it to be legal. I didn't buy any, hell I didn't even have a .308.
It could be that loading AP projectiles is only illegal in CA. The only reason I can think of to pull bullets and reload is if the factory had screwed up which does happen- I know a guy who bought a bunch of surplus Lake City ammo out of their factory in Israel that was overloaded to the point that it was compressing the powder. He bought a half million rounds that he is pulling and recovering the powder and other components on. That is the only reason I can think of to disassemble ammo.
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