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Old 10-30-2012, 07:32 PM   #11
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Well, I checked with Liberty and they confirmed that the electronics in their lock has nothing to protect it from EMP and would probably stop working in that event. Trying to open it with a cutting torch would ruin everything inside, so unless you had a generator and a powerful steel-cutting saw everything inside will be lost to you.

This is something to consider if EMP is on your list of SHTF concerns.
I'm betting on a plasma cutter through the bottom of the safe, where the bolt-down holes are. If i had to, i have a genny, and i think there is a neighbor with some auto cutting tools. Hopefully, any EMP would hit when i was home, with the safe unlocked and open.

Did you get the door panel that lets you hang a half dozen of your pistols on the door & has the pockets for mags & such? If not, consider it; i really like it for easy access to the pistols.
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Actually, the metal of the safe should offer a fair bit of shielding.
I just got a free safe, after a wanna-be burgular tried to get into it by knocking off the key-pad. This is not a gun safe, but about an 18" cube, but I suspect it is not a lot different.

On this safe the electronics are protected by a cheap plastic cover to allow access to the batteries. The circuit board is right there all exposed if the EMP makes it through my sock drawer, it is toast.

The key lock on my Sentry is in addition to the electronics, not an over-ride. If the circuit board goes, it is time for the sawzall, which would take all of about ten minutes. Or if the EMP was accidental I would call Sentry for a new board. If the EMP was from an airburst, I won't be worrying about the contents of the safe.
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I'm betting on a plasma cutter through the bottom of the safe, where the bolt-down holes are. If i had to, i have a genny, and i think there is a neighbor with some auto cutting tools. Hopefully, any EMP would hit when i was home, with the safe unlocked and open.

Did you get the door panel that lets you hang a half dozen of your pistols on the door & has the pockets for mags & such? If not, consider it; i really like it for easy access to the pistols.
yea, I got the pistol storage on the back side of the door and I like it too. I love the electronic lock also as it takes about 4 seconds to open. Liberty said they could switch-out the key-pad for a spin-dial for about $175.

Tough choice, ugh!
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If the circuit board goes, it is time for the sawzall, which would take all of about ten minutes.
I had one of those. It took me 7 min with a flat bar and hammer to get into. If it had been bolted down, that time would have been reduced. After opening, it took a ride out the 2nd story window.........
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Do your guys safes not have keys with them also?

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Mine was broken. I told the wife not to close it, She did. I "opened" it. Yes, it had a key. It was in addition to , not instead of the electronic lock.

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Mine also has a backup key so even if the electronic junk takes a crap Im still getting in it Wouldnt have bought it if it didnt have another means for access besides the electronic panel .

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How many of you have safes with electronic access locks? I wonder what the effects of an EMP would be on one whether from solar flare or nuke?

Wouldn't that be a gass if the very event that we were storing our stuff in safes for, turns out to be the cause of our safes being locked shut. Any body else thought about this? Better yet, anybody know if this is possible, or have a work around in case it is?

Just thinking,
I don't have the arsenal that some folks do. I only have 3 guns (2 if you don't count the SW22A ) I keep two of them locked in a GunVault that has electronic access. It also has a key that I keep nearby in case I forget the code or whatever.
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liberty safes arent safes they are just fancy gun lockers. the sides top and bottom are very vulnerable to things like drills and sawzalls. a big heavy safe, ill use that term for what we call safes, bolted to the basement floor and in a location that makes it difficult to access the top is ideal. if you can wedge it in somwhere that protecs the sides even better.

real safes utilize hardened plate steel not sheet metal.

anyway ive got a liberty that sits in my basement. its not coming out without specialized moving gear. took the moving guys nearly 6 hours to get it down the stairs.

emp isnt much of a real concern. anything strong enough to fry electronics through a typical house is prolly going to wipe out life on the planet.

if its a nuclear source and your affected by it your inside the blast radius.

i use a combination lock but im switching to a touchpad so the wife can use it easy.

i think a walking dead type zombie invasion is many magnitudes of higher concernn than an emp strike

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Our next house , which will be very soon once we get ours sold , will have a block concrete / solid 12" top walk in shelter . It will have a custom door with a removable handle that will double for a interior door handle when removed from the exterior. lots of thought has gone into this and its not going to be cheap but its going to happen regardless if the home is new or used , My wife has seemed to get more and more into the prepping thing without notice . We used to go to the store and pick up $100 worth of groceries a week , basically a weeks worth of food . I can say in the last 8 months our cabinets are jammed full, our fridge is full, and both deep freezers are full . Hmmmmm whats she planning for that im not supposed to know about

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