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Old 09-10-2012, 01:26 AM   #61
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We're in agreement.

I'm an ex 11b leg. I don't like lugging equipment that I don't have to. This thread streamlines your bag. I just saved an ounce in useless matches.

Now that may sound sarcastic to some. But hardcore hikers will take a toothbrush, and drill holes in the handle to save a gram of weight.

The point of the thread is to find the most useful items, at a good price, to dispose of the useless gear, and to demonstrate proficiency in the gear that you do have..

Nobody is mandated to carry anything, but the "all you need is a knife" guys are operating on a dangerous theory. Try starting a fire with nothing but a knife in December, and the candle looks mighty appealing.

I liked your comment about drilling holes in a tooth brush. Weight really is that important and that's why I made the comments I did. I really think weight is something many under estimate, and that's why I'm not far from being an "all you need is a knife guy". There are a lot of things that could make life much easier on the go, but you've got to be able to carry those things. That means extra calories for the energy to carry those things and more water. Not to mention you'll be dead tired after a couple of days. Just something to keep in mind.
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The more you know, the less you need. I got a whole backpack. :-P

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I liked your comment about drilling holes in a tooth brush. Weight really is that important and that's why I made the comments I did. I really think weight is something many under estimate, and that's why I'm not far from being an "all you need is a knife guy". There are a lot of things that could make life much easier on the go, but you've got to be able to carry those things. That means extra calories for the energy to carry those things and more water. Not to mention you'll be dead tired after a couple of days. Just something to keep in mind.
I agree again. I've said it in other threads, that 1000 rounds you think you're going to tote around can take a toll.

I've studied the hiking guys, and there is a price to weight ratio. The lighter something is, the more expensive it is.

Military guys will tell you, we used to tote stuff we'd never use in the field, because we were forced to. Can anyone say "Mickey Mouse boots"?

For the BOB, I weigh in the benefit of the tool vs. the weight. Some of the stuff is worth the weight. Some stuff has multiple uses. If a tool takes on 3 purposes, that's a factor as well.
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I agree again. I've said it in other threads, that 1000 rounds you think you're going to tote around can take a toll.

I've studied the hiking guys, and there is a price to weight ratio. The lighter something is, the more expensive it is.

Military guys will tell you, we used to tote stuff we'd never use in the field, because we were forced to. Can anyone say "Mickey Mouse boots"?

For the BOB, I weigh in the benefit of the tool vs. the weight. Some of the stuff is worth the weight. Some stuff has multiple uses. If a tool takes on 3 purposes, that's a factor as well.
I have always kept my camping/hiking/BOB bag packed with only the essentials. And I have always liked the idea of 1 tool performing multiple functions, like my axe - I can cut wood, kill an animal, skin with it, use it as a lever/pry-bar or just about anything i can think of. It's not light, but it can perform about a dozen tasks or more
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Cold Steel's offering could not, under the best CS guided tests, compare with the Kukri that Benning/TWMIM and I designed and had produced.

This thing is a MONSTER!

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I was only speaking to the bang for the buck perspective. The CS is definitely solid for the dollar. Definitely not the be all, end all factor. What was the cost on these beasts?
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short handle version
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=998012480

long handle version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_knife
haven't seen a price on this one tho..........prolly less than $20.

i have both. they are exceptionally light and easy to use. i will try to get a few pics or a video up of some trees that i will chop with one of them...........until you use it, DO NOT count it out!!!

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also, take a snap-cap aspirin container and put several doses of over-the-counter meds in it. i have a 100 capsule container that has anti-diarrheal meds, headache/fever reducer meds, anti-inflammatory meds, anti-histamine meds, and a few others........about 5 doses of each in all.

i just took some of what i had @ home and counted several doses out and put them in the empty apsirin container, labelled it with a sharpie (colors tell what the meds are) on the side, and taped over it all to make the label waterproof.

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I started thinking about it, and my regular "oh ****" rig is a military sleep system (the 3-bag job) a Brunton solar charger (which can also be charged from a wall socket or car) a smartphone, a good multi-tool (CRKT Zilla tool) two flashlights (Surefire G2 and E1B) a Surefire battery case / extra lamp carrier, full of spare batteries and an extra lamp for the G2) and a Glock trench tool.

Toss in my CCW rig (Kimber pro carry II, extra mag, Galco N3 holster) and I'm ready for 90% of what I'm ever going to encounter...

I really underestimated my smartphone: GPS capability, multi-format comms, weather / satellite info... Etc.

Toss in a brunton Restore and I can run a full charge 3 times... And re-charge that from a solar panel (built in) or my car...

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Dillinger. Just out of curiosity. What was soaking it in ice water supposed to prove?

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One of the most useful items considering space and weight and really works.
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I need a manufacturer on this. I bought one, and it snapped FAST.

Who made yours, and what have you done with it?
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Made by Highlander. Not the cheapest but one of the best. Can get them on Ebay. Never managed to break one.
Field expedient...
Have a dead critter on hand? Are you eating wild game in the woods?

Cutting the hide into thin strips, coat these thin strips of hide in fresh blood. Making sure you have a good coating, rub sand into the blood coated hide strips. Allow to dry to tacky.

There ya go.
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