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Old 07-05-2012, 01:12 AM   #21
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I don't understand the disdain some folks have for wind turbines I see them and think they are majestic. I'd much rather look at a row of them along a ridge-line than the smoke stack of a coal plant or the cooler towers of a nuclear plant

do folks drive around saying "boy, those telephone poles sure look great ... even more so with all that crap hanging off them" yet they are the standard and everywhere

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Shutting down the coal fired plants, is putting lots of people out of work.

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I don't understand the disdain some folks have for wind turbines I see them and think they are majestic. I'd much rather look at a row of them along a ridge-line than the smoke stack of a cola plant or the cooler towers of a nuclear plant

do folks drive around saying "boy, those telephone poles sure look great ... even more so with all that crap hanging off them" yet they are the standard and everywhere
I don't think they produce enough power, when compared to the other sources you mentioned. Especially for the footprint they have. A windmill farm is far larger than a comparable coal or nuke facility, is it not?
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Shutting down the coal fired plants, is putting lots of people out of work.
Energy is energy and no matter how it is produced their will always be a workforce needed to build it, install it and maintain it. What is stopping these workers from working in a different field?

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I don't think they produce enough power, when compared to the other sources you mentioned. Especially for the footprint they have. A windmill farm is far larger than a comparable coal or nuke facility, is it not?
they may take up more room but it's not like there isn't enough empty space in the US to sustain them. But I will grant that 1 aspect of green energy, wind turbines, will not be enough to provide all the needed energy. But a combination of many sources - wind, solar, geothermal, hydro, would be more than sufficient.
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Government mandates are shutting down the coal industry. I say, let the free market make the call.

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What is stopping these workers from working in a different field?

Aint a whole lot of jobs to choose from now days.
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Government mandates are shutting down the coal industry. I say, let the free market make the call.
I understand that and I would rather see Gov't out of the way as well

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What is stopping these workers from working in a different field?

Aint a whole lot of jobs to choose from now days.
I know that only too well but as dad said ... life is hard
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This thread passed stupid 5 miles back. A wind farm can not come close to power plants regardless of the energy source. You can maintane constant power from an energy reserve stock coal, Nuc, NG, Etc. How in the Hell do you speed up the wind when use pulls the grid down? You can not store this power in a switch box. It is little wonder Obama can lead this nation down the "Yellow Brick" road.

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Wind and solar produce power about 1/3 of the time. Maybe that is enough for some people.

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This thread passed stupid 5 miles back. A wind farm can not come close to power plants regardless of the energy source. You can maintane constant power from an energy reserve stock coal, Nuc, NG, Etc. How in the Hell do you speed up the wind when use pulls the grid down? You can not store this power in a switch box. It is little wonder Obama can lead this nation down the "Yellow Brick" road.
This is why so many members here are advocating for a diversity of sources. You may note that those members that have their own energy sources also use a variety of means by which to procure it.

Wind alone will never be sufficent, we ALL know that (I hope). A combination of nuclear, wind, solar, petrolium, geothermal, etc. will however be much more effective.

A lack of diversity is a large problem...its one reason why we are where we are today with our dependence on oil, especially that from the Middle East.

Even with good production from all of these alternative sources, we would probably still use considerable amounts of coal and oil, but at least we could reduce our dependence to a level that means we arent importing them...
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