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Old 12-27-2011, 02:02 AM   #21
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Gotta think about if the economy tanks, people will probably go psycho and start forming little armed mobs, killing and collecting loot. Need a gun with some oomph, lots of rounds; AK is perfect. Dragunov even better for the long shots. But the best weapon you have is your mind. Better start reading those field manuals.

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12 gauge shotgun. Great for up close and personal, and although I don't want or plan on engaging people too far away, It can make accurate 200 yard shots if need be. Ammo is also plentiful and relatively cheap. Only drawback is the size and weight of the ammo. Its a great all around hunting/defense tool. It doesn't have to be your main weapon but I think everybody should have one.

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12 gauge shotgun. Great for up close and personal, and although I don't want or plan on engaging people too far away, It can make accurate 200 yard shots if need be. Ammo is also plentiful and relatively cheap. Only drawback is the size and weight of the ammo. Its a great all around hunting/defense tool. It doesn't have to be your main weapon but I think everybody should have one.
Yep. It doesn't matter how many guns are in your cabinet, if there isn't a 12 gauge in there your cabinet will always be half empty.
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Yep. It doesn't matter how many guns are in your cabinet, if there isn't a 12 gauge in there your cabinet will always be half empty.
Thanks, and here I am wanting another pistol!

Oh well, I told the wife that for next Christmas or my birth day I'd like an 870 magnum/super mag. I have a buddy who has been trying to get me to go duck hunting with him. He's got a loaner gun, but I've been stalling because I don't mind shooting some one's gun on the range, but I don't like to borrow some one's gun quite like that.
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What happens with the cap and ball revolvers when you run out of caps
If you have gone that far down the crapper then you will be fighting with sticks. Caps are uber cheapo...AND with a little inegeuity you can re-use the caps (at least the hulls). Mercury fulmate isn't hard to come by.

With some forethought...you can even convert your caplock rifle back to flintlock. I haven't got there yet...but...there is that option.

I have about 1200 caps in sealed tins already.

Do you really think that once you've gone that far down the ladder that you're going to be in pitched battles?

Who knows? Will I keep buying a tin or two when I go to Sportmans or Cabelas or Bass Pro? Yep. Why not? They're inexpensive. They are things you may scrounge later.

The mistake is not planning for it. Worst case...you have cool old stuff to shoot someday.

Would you eschew adding a knife to your pack becasue it can get dull?
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When I first got interested in preparedness and firearms, I thought the world revolved around handguns. Handguns are great for carry, but when the zombies are coming down my street, the only firearms in my hand will have long barrels.

Don't discount the 12-gauge with slugs! That'll make a zombie lose their will to fight on.

I don't have endless disposable income so I've had to prioritize my "needs." I want to be ready and I now feel somewhat ready with my AR-15 in 5.56mm, a 12-gauge, a .22 rifle and some sidearms.

But my goal going forward is to be MORE ready every month. Ammo is expensive, especially for long arms. Next on my list is a M1A scout in .308.

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When I first got interested in preparedness and firearms, I thought the world revolved around handguns. Handguns are great for carry, but when the zombies are coming down my street, the only firearms in my hand will have long barrels.

Don't discount the 12-gauge with slugs! That'll make a zombie lose their will to fight on.

I don't have endless disposable income so I've had to prioritize my "needs." I want to be ready and I now feel somewhat ready with my AR-15 in 5.56mm, a 12-gauge, a .22 rifle and some sidearms.

But my goal going forward is to be MORE ready every month. Ammo is expensive, especially for long arms. Next on my list is a M1A scout in .308.
And that's kind of the point though.

I have a metric ****load of guns. Why? I like guns.

BUT...I have very few that I consider "Doomsday Guns". I made choices based upon perceived need and commonality of ammunition and ease of use and maintenance.

The rest of my guns will be great to have IF we wind up bugging in, which is my plan as we live out in the middle of nowhere...BUT...if we bug out. They get stored and hidden with whatever else I think I MAY be able to get back to someday. The fact is...I will leave my .338 Lapua in the safe and TAKE my .308. I will leave my Ithaca Mag 10 Roadblocker, and TAKE my 870. I will leave my Model 29 and TAKE my 460 magnum (because with it, I can shoot THREE calibers).

Use common sense...pare it down to "neccessary" and invest in food and ammo.
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When I first got interested in preparedness and firearms, I thought the world revolved around handguns. Handguns are great for carry, but when the zombies are coming down my street, the only firearms in my hand will have long barrels.

Don't discount the 12-gauge with slugs! That'll make a zombie lose their will to fight on.

I don't have endless disposable income so I've had to prioritize my "needs." I want to be ready and I now feel somewhat ready with my AR-15 in 5.56mm, a 12-gauge, a .22 rifle and some sidearms.

But my goal going forward is to be MORE ready every month. Ammo is expensive, especially for long arms. Next on my list is a M1A scout in .308.
Good answers here! My plan is to start dropping the zombies at about 500 yards using my long work bolt action in 7mm Rem Mag. Their heads will explode like ripe melons with a 162 soft-tip from my trusty seven mike-mike.

Then I go to the AR in 5.56 mm for my mid-range work (inside 300 yards) and finally do the clean-up with the 12 ga. pump up close (inside 50 yards). 00-buck and slugs are perfect for the scatter-gun.

Sure I'll have a hi-cap pistol on my hip with several refills, but I hope I don't have to go to that. That would mean the zombies are within 20 yards and I'm all out of shotgun ammo..
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Good answers here! My plan is to start dropping the zombies at about 500 yards using my long work bolt action in 7mm Rem Mag. Their heads will explode like ripe melons with a 162 soft-tip from my trusty seven mike-mike.

Then I go to the AR in 5.56 mm for my mid-range work (inside 300 yards) and finally do the clean-up with the 12 ga. pump up close (inside 50 yards). 00-buck and slugs are perfect for the scatter-gun.

Sure I'll have a hi-cap pistol on my hip with several refills, but I hope I don't have to go to that. That would mean the zombies are within 20 yards and I'm all out of shotgun ammo..
Yeah...realistically...IF you are down to using your pistol...you are in really DEEP ****. ANY TIME you are firing a weapon at another "human being" (using that term loosely), by definition you are in deep ****, because if you're not, you shouldn't be firing a gun at someone. If I know I am going to a gun fight...I am just going to stay home. If a gun fight comes to me...I want my rifle/shotgun/pistol/knife/fists in that order.

However...if the zombies have attacked and all has gone to hell in a handbasket...I want to have as much standoff capability as I can. I think your pistol in that situation is going to be more a "tool of comfort" than a front-line primary weapon anyway.

P.S. You should always keep a fat chick around if SHTF...that way if you have to run away, you only have to run faster than the heifer you throw to the zombies as a diversion....just sayin'
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P.S. You should always keep a fat chick around if SHTF...that way if you have to run away, you only have to run faster than the heifer you throw to the zombies as a diversion......just sayin'
That is some funny stuff right there!
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