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Old 07-28-2012, 11:56 PM   #11
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Although the copper could come in handy for us Glock owners.

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Although the copper could come in handy for us Glock owners.
Yeah, that's unfortunate. If S truly HTF, y'all GLOCKers would have to figure something out if it comes down to home made bullets. Although, I think a harder lead alloy would do just fine with plenty of cleaning.
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Copper for barter? No. Gold and silver wouldn't be any good for barter, either. For barter, you probably want booze, tampons, condoms, diapers, medicines, ammo and cigarettes.

As a store of wealth? Well, maybe. Gold and silver are better. Actually, silver is more scarce than gold and used more in industry and that's where I'd put my money as a hedge against the dollar crapping out. I personally wouldn't consider buying copper except for maybe a few rolls of 20 or 30 one-ounce rounds. If you have a great line on bulk copper and can get a great deal on it, it might not be a bad thing to have a few pounds.

A store of metals or other raw materials is what you use to get back on your feet after a SHTF situation. It's not what you use during one, though.

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Copper was very valuable to the Powhatten Indians, Virginia, 1607. It's lost a little since then...

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Copper for barter? No. Gold and silver wouldn't be any good for barter, either. For barter, you probably want booze, tampons, condoms, diapers, medicines, ammo and cigarettes.

I stand corrected. Copper will be very useful if the SHTF. It makes grate coils for a still, and that will then create something of value.

Me personally I'm not worried about items for barter. I'm focusing on items for production, and a working knowledge of those items. Having a few bottles of whiskey could be useful for trade, but having the ability to make whiskey would be priceless. Of course the value of those bottles of whiskey would go up exponentially after anyone tried my home brew.
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I stand corrected. Copper will be very useful if the SHTF. It makes grate coils for a still, and that will then create something of value.

Me personally I'm not worried about items for barter. I'm focusing on items for production, and a working knowledge of those items. Having a few bottles of whiskey could be useful for trade, but having the ability to make whiskey would be priceless. Of course the value of those bottles of whiskey would go up exponentially after anyone tried my home brew.
only if it's copper tubing!
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could you barter with copper?
You can barter with anything. If you can find somebody that wants it.
As others have said, there's just a lot more items that may have 'buyers.'
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The value of money is only in people's perception o its value, e.g. If it will buy them what they need, it has value. In a short-term SHTF situation, like the movie "Trigger Effect," those that have stocked up on supplies could make a fortune collecting money for over-priced, badly needed items. When the crisis ended, they would be sitting pretty! But if we get to EOTWAWKI, money will be worthless and metals will only be worth what can be made from them. We will go back to a barter system with one person trading vegetables they grew to someone else for a quart of milk. At this point, copper tubing to turn corn into liquor (no matter how bad) will be worth 100x more than a copper bar!

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To OP: Uhhhh, "Kilo"? How much over spot is that per POUND? LOL

Axxe, I disagree. Is it possible that with SHTF, people might need to store or save their wealth, and not in some food/fuel/whiskey/ect. form? Also, if the price of silver & gold were to go WAY up, maybe copper could step in to act like a medium of exchange for small things, like buying bread.

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