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Old 10-30-2012, 01:38 AM   #11
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It's hard to play sports or do dance well if you're not an athlete. It's hard to be a musician or singer if you're tone deaf. It's hard to be a painter if you're color blind.

For many, critical thinking is harder to learn, or at least practice, and for those people, I think maybe it is harder to teach, especially when context isn't fully understood by the teacher. (Is five coma's in one sentence allowed?) Memorization is easier to measure.

Most of the world still prefers to live with blind faith over the Scientific Method, Harvard Business Management, Nursing Process, or whatever you want to call it. It's not possible to personally test everything. Faith, of whatever kind, and allows one to get on with their life.
Just my personal belief here, but I think the overwhelming majority of people are capable of critical thinking? Unfortunately our culture inhibits critical thinking.

The first thing required for critical thinking is humility. You have to actually admit you don't know something before you can question it. Humility isn't exactly valued in our society. You're probably going to be more successful being arrogant than humble in our society? When was the last time you heard a politician say "I just don't know?"

Next you need curiosity for critical thinking. Curiosity isn't exactly promoted either. We're all born curios but we loose that pretty quickly? I think our school system has a lot to do with that.

Finally, there's just no need in a lot of people thinking critically. Most people go to work, pay the bills, and try to support a family with what little money is left. Thinking too much about things would probably be depressing? They're still going to be up to their neck in debt with no way out no matter how much they think about things.

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Just my personal belief here, but I think the overwhelming majority of people are capable of critical thinking? Unfortunately our culture inhibits critical thinking. . . . etc.
Oh I wish that were true, but from what I see and in my personal experience; Critical thinking is trumped by emotionalism and identity politics. So mostly I'm afraid you're right.

Far and away most all the seniors I service are absolutely against socialism! Absolutely! Even as they accept the ‘Meals on Wheels’, live in the HUD subsidized housing, use the subsidized public transportation, Medicare and prescription drug plans. Etc.

But they’re Republicans! Always were and always will be. It is part and parcel of who they are and to their mind, voting for anybody else is just plain wrong.

For some reason, most that accept help with their heating costs and/or are on dialysis seem to understand, not that they like it much.

(All in all, the above is cheaper for the rest of us than paying the 24/7 costs of their living in a seniors' facility. If the difference between their living in a nursing home at $70k-$100k per year and living in their own home, is the price of a hot, well balanced meal daily, and a tank of fuel oil once a year, the math is easy.)

My experience is that hardly anybody looks at the pros & cons of an issue. They just take their party’s position based on its abstract ideology because it provides them with an identity, not because they checked the actual price performance ratio. They believe what they’re told to believe. Critical thinking is out to lunch.
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Oh I wish that were true, but from what I see and in my personal experience; Critical thinking is trumped by emotionalism and identity politics. So mostly I'm afraid you're right.

Far and away most all the seniors I service are absolutely against socialism! Absolutely! Even as they accept the ‘Meals on Wheels’, live in the HUD subsidized housing, use the subsidized public transportation, Medicare and prescription drug plans. Etc.

But they’re Republicans! Always were and always will be. It is part and parcel of who they are and to their mind, voting for anybody else is just plain wrong.

For some reason, most that accept help with their heating costs and/or are on dialysis seem to understand, not that they like it much.

(All in all, the above is cheaper for the rest of us than paying the 24/7 costs of their living in a seniors' facility. If the difference between their living in a nursing home at $70k-$100k per year and living in their own home, is the price of a hot, well balanced meal daily, and a tank of fuel oil once a year, the math is easy.)

My experience is that hardly anybody looks at the pros & cons of an issue. They just take their party’s position based on its abstract ideology because it provides them with an identity, not because they checked the actual price performance ratio. They believe what they’re told to believe. Critical thinking is out to lunch.
I was trying to think of something optimistic to say, but I can't. Politics has become an us v. them death match. To conceded a point to the other side is viewed as treason even if the other side is right about something. And the worst things get the more people will dig in and abandon reason. I guess that's just another reason to be prepared for whatever?
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The easiest way a country can increase it's productivity and decrease it's dependancy on foreign products is not to be more efficient but to eliminate or reduce its population or the part of the population that depends on the more productive to pay their way. Scary, but this country would have remove it's non producers. Instead, we subsidize them, feed them and reinforce their lack of responsibility to this society and their own support.

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The easiest way a country can increase it's productivity and decrease it's dependancy on foreign products is not to be more efficient but to eliminate or reduce its population or the part of the population that depends on the more productive to pay their way. Scary, but this country would have remove it's non producers. Instead, we subsidize them, feed them and reinforce their lack of responsibility to this society and their own support.
And there you have the essence of Obamacare. The seniors that paid their way and are retired are a burden now. The government has stolen and spent their "secure" retirement fund. By restricting and denying medical service to them we can kill them off and fix Social Security and Medicare. Of course the government is stealing the money from Medicare to pay for services to illegal aliens who the government will fast track to citizenship so they can become good little Democrats. It was not enough that the government stole the Social Security Trust Fund and are stealing the money from Medicare, they now want the money that everyone has put aside in 401k and IRA accounts. I am really surprised they dont give the death penalty to thieves to eliminate the competition. It would also lower prison costs.
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