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Old 10-17-2008, 04:24 PM   #11
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What good are radios? Anything that would break your small party up would probably preclude the use of radios. Anything available on the civilian market is easily intercepted and jammed by military SIGINT goodies. Any other situation, like hunting, could be easily handled by whistling back and forth.

Zip ties on the other hand are the duct tape of the 21st century.
Radios can be useful for meeting up to form a group.
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While true & accurate points - I am not convinced that NOT having a radio is the best possible option, for me personally.

But, I also wouldn't mind having a spectrum analyzer of my very own, so to each his own list of toys.

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I'm interested to find what you'd do with a spectrum analyzer whilst on the run.

If you just want one for kicks, PM me. My brother might still have all kinds of hookups with HP equipment.

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Radios can be useful for meeting up to form a group.
Is there a group in your area that has already coordinated what to do in a SHTF sort of deal? Do you really want the extra baggage in a survival situation?

Think about it, if it is something that is bad enough to cause you to flee your home, rather than shelter in place, do you really want to let other keep tabs on you? Do you really want to be tied to a larger group that is more mouths to feed, that are inevitably less prepared than you? Do you really want to become the welfare program?
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I'm interested to find what you'd do with a spectrum analyzer whilst on the run.
I never said I wanted it for my BOB, I just said I would like to have one. There is a lot of neat things I have learned to be able to do with my old 8591C, and a couple of models for "other" purpose builds, like a waveform monitor and O-Scope.

It's not real high on my list, it would just be nice to have at times when I am working on stuff. More of a crutch than anything else... LOL

You bring up an interesting point about the welfare program though. Always good to have other input...

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I never said I wanted it for my BOB, I just said I would like to have one. There is a lot of neat things I have learned to be able to do with my old 8591C, and a couple of newer models for "other" purpose builds.

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What good are radios? Anything that would break your small party up would probably preclude the use of radios. Anything available on the civilian market is easily intercepted and jammed by military SIGINT goodies. Any other situation, like hunting, could be easily handled by whistling back and forth.

Zip ties on the other hand are the duct tape of the 21st century.
My intent is to use radios to meet up with others should other forms of communication get disrupted. They're all within 10 miles, but that's an awful long way for an inexpensive hand-held radio not taking advantage of a repeater.
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My intent is to use radios to meet up with others should other forms of communication get disrupted. They're all within 10 miles, but that's an awful long way for an inexpensive hand-held radio not taking advantage of a repeater.
I could see using mobile HAM bases with field expedient antennae, but those little walkie-talkies aren't of much use. They have a really limited range once you get out in the woods. Even most of the higher end Motorola commercial and government band walkie-talkies are useless without multiple repeater stations.

Just for kicks, I may do a write up on jungle antennas and field expedient directional antennas.
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Zip ties are an excellent idea, thanks. I'll add some to my BoB.

Regarding 2-way radios...what do you guys recommend? We have some inexpensive Motorola walkie-walkie type things that are good line-of-sight to maybe a couple miles. But in the woods or hilly areas, the range stinks. What's out there that has a decent range?
Trust me when I tell you that you don't want a lot of range on those things. I was on a interceptor/ jammer team and some of the best intel we got during training was from using our Motorola radios as intercept devices. The best part was that it was all in the clear.
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Trust me when I tell you that you don't want a lot of range on those things. I was on a interceptor/ jammer team and some of the best intel we got during training was from using our Motorola radios as intercept devices. The best part was that it was all in the clear.
What unit were you with? I spent 3 years with B/313 MI.
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Bug-out Bag or " Go bag " Contents List :
Sealed water packs
Large collapsable water container
Nalgene bottle of water
Water purification chemicals and filtration device
MREs
Freeze Dried Food packs
Nutrition Bars, candy bars
2 Contractor Grade Trash Bags
Fleece Jacket or Shirt, sun hat, Long underwear
Emergency rain poncho
Space Blanket
Leatherman Tool or Victorinox Swiss Army Knife
Tanto, Bowie or other Defensive knife
Gun
Tiny FM Radio from Dollar Store and batteries
Photon Micro Light Flashlight
First Aid Kit
Batteries ( spare )
Cell Phone Charger or Crank Radio with Cell Phone charger
FRS Radios and batteries
Weather Radio and batteries
Coins and cash
Special Medicines, copies of eyeglass prescription and others
Phone list
Inventory list of contents
Parachute cord or dental floss, wire ties, sewing kit, bungee cord
Chemical hand warmers
Aluminum foil for cooking and bowl making
Titanium camping cook pot or canteen cup
Tea bags / Boulion cubes
Matches in Zip-lock bag, tinder, Trioxane tab, Sterno, Piece of Rubber Inner Tube
Pencil and paper in small Zip-Loc bag .
Hand sanitizer
Disposable sun glasses from eye exam
map
spare underwear and socks if you have room


In separate bag you can abandon or cashe if necessary :
Sleeping bag and mattress pad
Toiletries
Sturdy Boots
Winter coat
Head Light and Batteries


Two people could share the load and supplies. Visit www.Nitropak.com and other survival suppliers for more info .

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What unit were you with? I spent 3 years with B/313 MI.
D Co 104th MI Bn at Fort Hood.
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