Originally Posted by Doc3402
Sorry. I could have made that clearer. I wasn't suggesting a GM diesel. I was just saying that that was the earliest I could remember the chips first appearing in motor vehicles, and I think GM was the first of the Big Three to do it. I assume that all the other manufacturers got on the bandwagon within a year or three.
No computer controlled electrical. EMP shouldn't kill electricity, or electrical storage in a typical wet or dry cell battery, but as chip dependent as we are these days it may as well. Even a decent tactical type flashlight will become inoperable, but that $1.99 EverReady you have in the junk drawer should still work. Tube type radios and amplifiers should still work, especially if they are unplugged at the time.
EMP doesn't just kill microchips.
When EMP was "discovered", the contemporary electronics of the time were damaged. That would have been variable state electronics, better known as tube technology.
The problem with EMP (solar CME or ionization from the resultant gamma rays from a nuclear UCR) is that the voltage is so high. In modern electronics, specifically integrated circuits, the gates between the micro components can become "fused" or melted from the heating that occurs.
Basically, an impulse of the magnitude associated with an air burst device or solar event could BBQ things like an alternator or electronic ignition. If you drive something like an all-mechanical diesel, the vehicle will be operable.
The question I have is this:
Even if you have an operable vehicle that survives the event, where are you going to drive it to given that all of the other vehicles will likely be dead and littering the streets, how are you going to refuel it, and what do you think the people who didn't prep are going to do when they see you driving around in your car while they are all walking? Gonna run them all over? Gonna shoot everybody?
Even if none of that was a problem, how much fuel can your vehicle carry? If you're carrying a bunch of extra fuel because you can't get it after the event, how much food, water, clothing, guns, and ammunition can your vehicle carry.
I guess it's not a big problem if you don't have to drive very far, but most gas stations use pumps with modern electronics in them.
My point is this:
While some people and some mechanical and even electrical devices will survive an EMP event, basic things like electricity, clean drinking water, sanitation services, and other things that are more important than EMP hardened bug out vehicles will be real problems. Leaving your home and everything you have to trek off into the woods after all hell breaks loose doesn't seem like much of a survival tactic to me, it seems more like a lonely place to die.
Just because you know how to hunt, fish, and fight off zombies doesn't mean you know what to do after you break your leg. Even if you do know what to do, how many people have an operating room in their bunker? If you get an infection after you run off into the woods, do you have the means to kill the infection? Infection, disease, and accidents killed a lot more of our ancestors than other people did. Things like tooth decay and basic hygiene and sanitation were the reasons most people in the middle ages didn't make it to 30.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that leaving society and retreating to your protective cocoon isn't going to improve your long term survival. You need your neighbors, you need your community, and you need America. Running away when something bad happens is a temporary fix at best. Eventually you're going to have to start fixing the problems.