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madison_22 08-07-2011 11:35 AM

44mag or .223 for bear emergency
 
I am hunting. Small game with my .223 when a grizzly threatens me. Do I use my .223, my 44 S&W, or my pepper spray? [Please answer only if you have actual bear or hog experience with .223, 44mag, or pepper. Üninformed opinions and guesses do no help me!]

JohnJak 08-07-2011 01:01 PM

44 mag is my caliber.

towboater 08-07-2011 01:35 PM

I can't help ya, because I use a 458 when I bear hunt.

dnthmn2004 08-07-2011 01:39 PM

Unless your .223 is full auto, I'd swap to the 44 mag. Bear spray is useless - except to season pizza.

Lindenwood 08-07-2011 09:59 PM

I read an article once that said statistically one is more likely to survive an encounter after using bear spray than after using a weapon.

Unless the .223 is an a high-cap AR and / or you are an amazing shot who can place that little 55gr bullet in just the right spot to drop him (eye? snout? I dunno) while he's charging, I'd draw the .44. But, if you've got 15 rounds left in an AR and don't have the time to transition to your .44, I wouldn't hesitate to put half a dozen rounds into its face!

hbomb 08-07-2011 10:25 PM

bear spray, .44 backup. .223 is like a mosquito to bears and crackheads.

jjfuller1 08-07-2011 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindenwood (Post 557816)
I read an article once that said statistically one is more likely to survive an encounter after using bear spray than after using a weapon.

Unless the .223 is an a high-cap AR and / or you are an amazing shot who can place that little 55gr bullet in just the right spot to drop him (eye? snout? I dunno) while he's charging, I'd draw the .44. But, if you've got 15 rounds left in an AR and don't have the time to transition to your .44, I wouldn't hesitate to put half a dozen rounds into its face!

well i dont have exprience but i was thinking along those same lines. if im walking with my rifle at the ready and get charged the time it would take me to lower my rifle draw and shoot my pistol. id rather just bring up my rifle and pop off 20 rounds before the impact

Rex in OTZ 08-10-2011 01:31 AM

bears and going home in one piece
 
depends on what your doing, in many cases in Alaska you have to file a defence of life and property form when a bear encounter happens and if one is killed you actions will be reviewd by the State Fish and Game cops and if your found to be running a dirty camp or spoiling for a encounter you may get a citation.
Pack somthing big and be familure in its use, .44mag 300gr at least.
so Far Ive been doing Maintence in a area of NW Arctic for last 7 years and we have all 3 Blacks, Browns and Polar, have had couple run ins with bears one Black and one Brown, if you can avoid a bear thats best, the Pepper Spray works great if you nail them in the face & eyes, after discharging leave the area immediately, Bear Spray is a Bear attractant to other bears.

JonM 08-10-2011 01:35 AM

ive read news article about at least one eskimo using a M16 to kill a polar bear but he used a full 30round mag on full auto...

Rex in OTZ 08-10-2011 01:47 AM

bears and going home in one piece
 
Have you ever heard the old saying 'Going Out Loaded For Bear' I guess a .223 Rem isnt much of a gun on bears if there dander is up, a few years back down by Bethel AK they had a younger Brown Bear attack a group of Govt workers I cant recall what they were doing exactly but anyway the bear charged 5 workers and a total of 12 rounds of 12ga Sabot were fired, with 9 hits the last round being a heart shot, they latter on found that the hourglass shaped 12ga winchester slugs had sprued under the skin and outer musle layers and one flattened on the shoulder of this young Grizz. since then from what I hear the Govt has stopped useing sabot and Forrester type slugs they now issue only a a solid rifled slug
As we found its easyer to train people to use a slug gun than a hand gun as they sight radius is longer and you have more probibility of a hit than with a hand gun.
http://www.brennekeusa.com/cms/fileadmin/BrennekeUSA/Law_enforcement/user_upload/Dokumente/THD_LE.pdf
Hunting gallery: Reader-submitted alaska.com | Alaska news at adn.com
Hunting gallery: Reader-submitted alaska.com | Alaska news at adn.com
Hunting gallery: Reader-submitted alaska.com | Alaska news at adn.com
Hunting gallery: Reader-submitted alaska.com | Alaska news at adn.com
Hunting gallery: Reader-submitted alaska.com | Alaska news at adn.com
Hunter in critical condition after mauling: Bear Attacks | Alaska news at adn.com
http://www.adn.com/bearattacks/
If you feel you could adiquately protect your self from thes animals with a .223 thats fine we can always go look for your body parts latter.


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