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bizy 05-09-2011 03:49 PM

2 Way Radios, your suggestion
 
How many of you have 2 way walkie talkies and/or 5 band shortwave recievers? What would you suggest?

blue-eyed-soldier 05-09-2011 07:08 PM

I use MURS (vhf) for when in the woods , frs/gmrs ( uhf ) for city's and CB for skipping .

bkt 05-10-2011 01:10 AM

Depends on what you want. For security, Trisquare's eXRS radios are excellent - they channel hop in a pseudo-random way over 10 billion channels. But they're limited in range to a couple miles tops.

CB will get you more range, but no security.

Something like the Puxing 777+ is a Ham unit requiring a license but may get you talking on the other side of the world assuming relays are up.

wmille01 05-10-2011 06:07 AM

I bought a some 2 ways from the bass pro shop a few years back came with head sets, has a range of about 5 miles, 10 different channels.

Vikingdad 05-15-2011 04:53 AM

i use a HAM radio that requires an amateur radio license, it is a Yaesu VX5R. If I were to buy another one today I would probably get a VX6R. If you don't want to get a license I would look into an FRS or GMRS. Any radio you get will not be "secure" since there are always people potentially listening in. There is an outfit called Amateur Electronics Supply (AESham.com) that sells all of these and much much more. One of the most important things on any radio is the antenna, I replaced mine the day I bought it and I have made a few better ones for different scenarios. One very versatile one is the wire J-Pole that rolls up and fits in a pocket. Bring that out into the woods with a roll of string and you would be surprised at how much further you can communicate. by tossing the string up in a tree and hoisting the J-Pole up as high as you can. If you can replace the antenna on the radio you choose you can make a J-Pole for it.

armsmaster270 05-15-2011 04:58 AM

frs/gmrs ( uhf ) for city's and CB for skipping. Also Vhf Marine Band.

bkt 05-15-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingdad (Post 504716)
i use a HAM radio that requires an amateur radio license, it is a Yaesu VX5R. If I were to buy another one today I would probably get a VX6R.

Do you have any insight comparing the Yaesu, Icom, Puxing and Kenwood handheld models? Thanks for the tip on the VX6R.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingdad (Post 504716)
If you don't want to get a license I would look into an FRS or GMRS.

There's nothing wrong with those except the range is often terrible if you're not going to be relatively close to the individual you're trying to talk with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingdad (Post 504716)
Any radio you get will not be "secure" since there are always people potentially listening in.

The reason I mentioned the eXRS is their frequency hopping spread spectrum over 10 billion channels. Changing channels a few times a second makes it tricky to listen in unless you have the channel-hopping algorithm and key. I'm sure it's not impossible to do it, but most people aren't going to have the technology to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingdad (Post 504716)
There is an outfit called Amateur Electronics Supply (AESham.com) that sells all of these and much much more. One of the most important things on any radio is the antenna, I replaced mine the day I bought it and I have made a few better ones for different scenarios. One very versatile one is the wire J-Pole that rolls up and fits in a pocket. Bring that out into the woods with a roll of string and you would be surprised at how much further you can communicate. by tossing the string up in a tree and hoisting the J-Pole up as high as you can. If you can replace the antenna on the radio you choose you can make a J-Pole for it.

I've got several extra feet of antenna wire on my car's cb antenna. Is it best to coil it, wad it, spread it around or snip the excess?

Vikingdad 05-16-2011 05:29 AM

I'll handle these one at a time.

"Do you have any insight comparing the Yaesu, Icom, Puxing and Kenwood handheld models? Thanks for the tip on the VX6R."

Not really. They are all good radios and come with a price tag to match. My choice (the VX5R Yaesu) was based on the recommendation of the guy at the local HRO (Ham Radio Outlet, hamradio.com) and it has been a good radio.

Vikingdad 05-16-2011 05:34 AM

"There's nothing wrong with those except the range is often terrible if you're not going to be relatively close to the individual you're trying to talk with."

No argument there. I have had them work for over a mile on my ranch. I hear you can open them up and get more distance out of them but since those radios fulfilled my needs (unlicensed operators) I never opened them up. I should though just to see what I can get out of them. You need to know that the radios you buy at Costco say "up to 5 miles range", which is true, but that is direct line of sight. Again, you can open them up and get more range out of them. Also, I think you do need some sort of license or registration for the GMRS radios.

Vikingdad 05-16-2011 05:45 AM

"The reason I mentioned the eXRS is their frequency hopping spread spectrum over 10 billion channels. Changing channels a few times a second makes it tricky to listen in unless you have the channel-hopping algorithm and key. I'm sure it's not impossible to do it, but most people aren't going to have the technology to do it."

Don't be so sure about that. There are scanners that can scan and decode damned near anything these days. Not too long ago a buddy of mine tried to sell me (damn near give me) a scanner he picked up in Japan that would scan many frequencies I know are "secure" (I listened to some) but they were as clear as a bell.

Fact is anything that is sent via radio waves or land line can be compromised. That's why bin Laden had no phone and no internet in his hidey-hole.

Unless you are comfortable having what you say posted on a billboard in Times square, don't say it. (that goes for pictures too!)


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