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Old 05-13-2013, 08:32 AM   #71
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BEER ! YOU FORGOT THE BEER!!!!!!!
LOL , a man with a plan .! I personally have ruled out anything that consumes
Petroleum . I feel that the cost of gasoline might be unaffordable or even impossible to find . If I where the the evil over- lord , I would cut off all "entitlements", SSI , SSD , WELFARE , ETC. ! That would cut off all food , medications , and in some cases , privatize fresh water ! Fuel , no job , no money , and for too many , no hope.!

Must become new world pioneers to have a chance . Small groups of organized
Life style would be the best chance . Solar and wind , wood , grow what all you can and harvest all heirloom seed.! Every person with the simple desire to survive and all with their own unique talents ! The work load must be shared, no one man can do this indefinitely !

What good is a generator or vehicle with no fuel.? What good is money when nothing affordable left.? The free spirit and a group effort to help each-other.!
The common goal , simply , survival..!

I can give you a list of a thousand things I can do with out.! I also can give you a list of one hundred things that need to be done for (LONG TERM SURVIVAL)..!

Number one on my list : (Knowledge) , there is power and solutions to all things armed with knowledge..!
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Number one on my list : (Knowledge) , there is power and solutions to all things armed with knowledge..!
Did not know that. Damn! Where's a pencil and piece of paper......hold on while I find one......
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Did not know that. Damn! Where's a pencil and piece of paper......hold on while I find one......
LOL , please to excuse , I have just returned from Walmart and sort of lost my
Grasp on reality..!
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...But you don't seem to understand that a reasonably healthy human body can survive for several months or more on a bare bones diet. You'll lose weight. And possibly strength. But you won't starve.

Hell, read up on the Hanoi Hilton and the Bataan death march. Or read the story of the mountain man, Hugh Glass. Or Mexican farm workers in the interior of Mexico.
Survive? I understand your plan is to live like an abused prisoner of war or a farm-laboring serf in a corrupt third world nation. That's brilliant. To each his own. I concede that's not my intention at all. In fact...

My objective is precisely not to live like that under any circumstances!
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My objective is precisely not to live like that under any circumstances!
Mine too. But I'm prepared if it comes to that.

I have canned hams, venison jerky, dried sausages, sardines, dried fruit, a several month supply of canned fruit and veggies, dried fruit and veggies, every spice and seasoning you can think of and two weeks of MRE, before I need to break into the beans. cornmeal, wheat, rice etc.

Also have a backup generator with spare parts and 2 weeks supply of diesel (55 gallons) to keep the freezer going. and usually have at least 30 gallons of diesel in the truck that could be siphoned if necessary to run the generator another week+ if needed.
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Oh yeah! Well, let me tell you something...

...I'm coming to your house. I don't eat that well now!!! But I do have gas.

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Oh yeah! Well, let me tell you something...

...I'm coming to your house. I don't eat that well now!!! But I do have gas.
Just bring your venison jerky! and a case or two of Genesee!
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locutus, why not an LP generator, and a 1000 gal tank? No worries about fuel storage, and that'd provide MUCH more than 3 weeks running time....

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Oh yeah! Well, let me tell you something...

...I'm coming to your house. I don't eat that well now!!! But I do have gas.
Lou.......The gas is probably due to your poor diet!
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It is intentional. I have a 1,000 gallon methane tank. But I'm rethinking this as collecting it is hell...

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