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Old 10-23-2011, 07:56 AM   #11
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You guys over east don't get the oportunity to do 600 yard shots like we do over west but you have to get close with a lever nonetheless

I heard you can't hunt whitetails on the ground because they'll smell you or hear you before you even know their there is that trur
I'm not sure. The law where we hunt is that you have to be 8 feet above the ground anyway. As for long shots, it's pretty common to see people sighting in their rifles for 50 yards at the range. The 100 yard shot is a bit rare.
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I'm not sure. The law where we hunt is that you have to be 8 feet above the ground anyway. As for long shots, it's pretty common to see people sighting in their rifles for 50 yards at the range. The 100 yard shot is a bit rare.
Wow 50 yards? I sight my rifle in at 200 yards I've seen guys that shot at deer that look like specs in my scope on nine power
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Wow 50 yards? I sight my rifle in at 200 yards I've seen guys that shot at deer that look like specs in my scope on nine power
Sure. The trees stand so close together over here that even with no leaves, you're pretty likely to be hitting twigs and stuff. For example: In the video below, notice the bows on the ground. He made that clearing himself.


This second video shows a typical density in a decently aged forest. Not a very long line of sight at all. Problem is most forests are younger than what you see here. It's pretty difficult to find any wooded area older than 60 years.

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I live about 50 miles from Portland and its either really open or extremely dense when you can bearly walk through it

the elk like the dense and the deer like the open in the cases I've seen

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i have hunted in the past with a winchester 94 in 30-03, though i never took a deer with that rifle. i have taken deer with a 243, 270, 30-06 and a 7mm rem. mag. but i wouldn't feel ashamed to take one with the 30-30 if that's all i had.

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i have hunted in the past with a winchester 94 in 30-03, though i never took a deer with that rifle. i have taken deer with a 243, 270, 30-06 and a 7mm rem. mag. but i wouldn't feel ashamed to take one with the 30-30 if that's all i had.
The problem is that since the 1960's or so there have been so many bad arse calibers that have come out and we only have so much hunting time that we often neglect our 30-30's,I have even taken a deer with a .270 weatherby magnum@35 yards,and that's a gun meant to be zero'd at 300 yards,that's beyond rediculous when I was in an area of woods with no visibility beyond 75 yards-I should have been out there with my 30-30!
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tcan, where are you hunting? I will agree that not many shots exceed 150 yards but limited to 50??


I also see a new thread coming...

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tcan, where are you hunting? I will agree that not many shots exceed 150 yards but limited to 50??


I also see a new thread coming...
I didn't mean to imply that it was limited to 50 yards, but that 50 yards seems to be the more common distance. With .30-30, if you zero at 50, you're also zero'd for 75 yards, and only .25" below the zero at 100 yards and 2.5" below at 150 yards. It kind of makes sense considering what your more common shots are going to be.


I hope this isn't too far off topic, but:

We're leasing 300 acres of land with 5 other guys. The land was selectively logged a while back, leaving some logging roads (red lines). We've got our shooting lane setup along the "T" of one of these lanes. The dead ahead shot is about 100 yards. To the left we've got a 45 yard opportunity and to the right maybe 25 yards. But we had to clear and mow all that out. And it's still difficult to get a game cart back there.

The land sits in a pocket next to two small roads (double black lines) with a derelict house we use to sleep in the night before we hunt (grey). The yellow area is farm field.

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tCan, great explaination. Your thoughts on your zero are spot on as well. I personally would zero at 100 to stretch the range should I need to but nothing wrong with what you're doing.

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tCan, great explaination. Your thoughts on your zero are spot on as well. I personally would zero at 100 to stretch the range should I need to but nothing wrong with what you're doing.
Well, the difference in trajectory between a 100 and 50 yard zero probably isn't much. Incidentally, we do zero at 100 yards. An inch one way or the other isn't going to make a bit of difference with a .30-30 is it? *Bang!* DRT.
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