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Old 01-08-2011, 11:54 AM   #21
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Default Well Im an old fart...

And my first shotgun is a cheap Brazilian shotgun that killed a LOT of rabbits
in the 1980's but it warned against using buckshot or slugs! It has never
fired any shells over #4 "birdshot" for use on ducks & pheasants. Most of
what that crude side by side has used is 2&3/4 #6 game loads!

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While 00 buckshot in a full or better choke at close range would be a great big game load,if it were "just legal" some idiot is going to try to shoot a deer from 50 yards with an unchoked #4 buckshot load and injure animals,and it would be legal to do so because in his mind he's using a legal load.That's just why I think it's illegal.

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i wouldnt use it simply because you cant really control where all the pellets go. pop the deer's pee-pocket and you just ruined a lot of meat. with a slug, bullet or arrow you have good control over where yor projectile will impact.

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Default At todays Spokane gun show

I only found one with an ajusitble choke!

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Back to the original question-- I think using buckshot, patterned properly, under 30 yards and aiming for the head and neck areas will bring down a deer.
I think if one thinks so buckshot as 9-12 32 caliber bullets traveling at 1000 ft/sec and at least half of these hitting the target with a properly placed hit will do the job.
NOW let's look at my statement:
properly patterned
shot placement-not inaccurate skills
under 30 yards.
All of the above have been abused in the past and have resulted in wounded and maimed animals . I can agree that many buckshot hunters do not fall within the proper use of buckshot so the State takes actions that protects animals from these "hunters"
I personally will use slugs as stated, as I can hit what I aim at or will not take the shot

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Default Buckshot Does Not Equal Spray and Pray!

Buckshot does not equal spray and pray!

The last deer I killed with small buckshot, in this case Federal Premium 00B, was with a running shot at 40 yards. My pattern tested full choke shotgun consistently placed 12 pellets into a well centered 18 inch pattern at that distance. I intentionally swung the bead just ahead and below the head of the running deer. The 6 pellet strike in the head, neck and body sent the deer head over heels - dead right there.

A deliberate shot, with a well tested shotgun and buckshot load, is not spray and pray.

Today, with tight patterning 3 pellet/.60 caliber Dixie Tri-Ball buckshot, I deliberately target the shoulder. Again with a well tested firearm and load, I would not hesitate to take 50 yard shots of the same type and expect a DRT with complete penetration or at worst a very strong blood trail leading directly to my kill.

The capabilities of today's best buckshot loads have doubled the effective range of buckshot, just as modern slug ammo has done for shotgun slugs.

Yes, there are too many archers who don't practice and leave wounded game in the woods. Yes, there are too many rifle hunters with poorly sighted rifles, taking questionable long shots and leaving wounded game in the woods. Yes, there are too many shotgun slug using hunters that don't understand the limitations of their ammo and leave wounded game in the woods. Yes, there are also shotgunners who take excessively long shots with untested buckshot loads. This type of hunter will continue to exist and sully the reputation of all ethical hunters - whatever the hunting tool chosen.

Taking shots beyond the tested sure range of buckshot, slug, handgun, rifle, arrow or shooter ability is completely unethical.

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Well said and agreed

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Indiana doesn't allow buckshot. It is only recently that they allow pistol caliber rifles (.357 or better). And handguns (also .357 or better) and muzzle loaders are within my adult lifetime.

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