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Old 09-30-2010, 11:12 PM   #31
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That would be a great place to be Walley.

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Old 09-30-2010, 11:27 PM   #32
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That would be a great way to go at it RMc.
How much compression to you have to use to get that 100 grs. of 3f in that case so wads and shot will fit? Never have tried that route but sounds interesting.
Everything fits with moderate compression. Just use 2 or 3 .125 nitro cards over powder to bring the shot column up for a proper crimp. Remember a roll crimp gives more space in the hull than a fold crimp. A slip of typing paper cut to size (in quantity) with a paper cutter can be placed in the hull to act as a shot wrapper to cut down on leading and bore scrub.

If you are loading new primed hulls, all you need to load black powder shells is a proper size powder dipper, a wooden shell block that holds about 25 hulls, a roll crimp head for your electric drill (or drill press) and something to hold the shell during crimping. (Ballistic Products, Precision Reloading Co. and Graf & Sons are good sources)
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I am extremely lucky to live where we do. We hunt deer, turkeys, pheasants, squirrels and rabbits on the home place and the adjacent cropland we lease. We also lease the hunting rights on 300 acres of CRP land to hunt pheasants on. I don’t think that I could have found a better place to retire if I tried.

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I'm in Walley's camp. A .410 2-1/2 or even a 3" with #4's is the ticket with a full choke. Bigger gauges = more damage. You are not going to damage the meat to any significance at 25-35 yards and you shouldn't miss that many too.

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Old 10-01-2010, 10:59 AM   #35
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Dog they are blasted to smithereens with I shoot them. Because I don't eat squirrels so I leave them for the buzzards. Now I don't hunt tree squirrels. I have only hunted them nasty California Liberal Ground squirrels. You should see what a 55gr Nosler BT does to one at 100 yards out of a 220 Swift or 22-250...

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I have actually learned a lot in this thread, thanks guys.

Hell growing up my best friends dad had a grudge against gophers - he'd go into a rage when they got in his garden, understandably. Well wouldn't you know it one day while i was over out comes the gopher sauntering around the back yard. Almost immediately out comes the dad from the house, shotgun in hand and works his way around the edge of the yard, flanks the gophers and blasts him from about 20-25 ft. I have to tell you, there was almost nothing left to discern it was a gopher. It was utterly destroyed. I figured if it will do that to a gopher than a squirrel would nearly be vaporized.

Now I see that lots of folks are using shotguns, 22's, etc.

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I have actually learned a lot in this thread, thanks guys.

Hell growing up my best friends dad had a grudge against gophers - he'd go into a rage when they got in his garden, understandably. Well wouldn't you know it one day while i was over out comes the gopher sauntering around the back yard. Almost immediately out comes the dad from the house, shotgun in hand and works his way around the edge of the yard, flanks the gophers and blasts him from about 20-25 ft. I have to tell you, there was almost nothing left to discern it was a gopher. It was utterly destroyed. I figured if it will do that to a gopher than a squirrel would nearly be vaporized.

Now I see that lots of folks are using shotguns, 22's, etc.
Most of the shots I take at Gray Squirrels and Fox Squirrels are at ranges of 30 to 40 yards, (90 to 120 ft.), at those distances a full choke pattern runs 26 to 40 inches in diameter. Since #4 shot has roughly 154 pellets in a 1 1/8th ounce payload, approximately 4 to 6 pellets will hit a squirrel size target at those ranges.
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nothing wrong with it at all. Just spit the pellets out

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Old 11-28-2010, 12:27 AM   #39
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Default #4 Shot...

...passes completely through squirrels. No shot to spit out!

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Last week I was walken out of the woods from my deer blind and at 30 feet away took aim with my 12 Ga loaded with deer slugs. That did not end well.

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