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MOSFET-Engineer 02-28-2012 06:38 AM

What is the most painless way of killing a heavily wounded mammal?
 
Assume the animal’s brain more or less resembles that of an average sized mammal (similar in size and properties of the brain of homo sapiens sapiens). EDIT: Nothing is to be fallaciously extrapolated from this: See my response below.
You aim for the brain point blank, but what angle/impact point do you pick and what kind of round do you use:

A .410, 10, 12, or a 20 gauge slug or a .4 HydraShok AE or a generic .5 AE?

The objective is minimization of expected pain and time to death of the animal. Please establish a ranking on the previously mentioned projectiles based on the objective.

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Josh1158 02-28-2012 07:15 AM

I would use the 12 slug rite behind the base of the ear. Im not sure how close I would wana be. On swamp people they kill gaters with a 22lr/22 mag. They on shoot em on top of there heads just behind there eyes. There ain't no floppin or nuttin after that

MOSFET-Engineer 02-28-2012 07:25 AM

I read somewhere that the 10 slug has more power.

Josh1158 02-28-2012 07:28 AM

No clue on that. I do kinda think a shotgun round at point blank is alittle overkill.

MOSFET-Engineer 02-28-2012 07:45 AM

1. 10 gauge slug
2. 12 gauge slug
3. 20 gauge slug
4. .410 gauge slug
4. .5 AE FMJ
5. .4 HydraShok AE

1. Rear
2. Side
3. Frontal

I think this is the answer.

Marlinman 02-28-2012 07:48 AM

Try an axe between the ears. Works faster and is alot cleaner. Yes 10 ga has more power but short of a 22 lr/mag a bullet is a waste. If you are gonna use a bullet the use a 22 mag aimin either for a shot passing through the area between the ears on top of head or through the side of the head bout 1 1/2" behind the eyes.

God didnt make all men equal colonel Sam Colt did

primer1 02-28-2012 11:52 AM

Careful. In Ohio if u are hunting and finish off a hunted animal that way you are technically hunting with that firearm. Yes, I know you have to get caught first, then the game warden had to be a prick. If its a deer, for example, your in trouble by using a .22 or a .40.

c3shooter 02-28-2012 12:08 PM

ANY firearm that can disrupt the portion of the brain where it connects to the spinal cord produces what amounts to instant death. There are also spots where a smaller bullet such as a .22 will produce instant unconscious state- which is why slaughter houses use a stunner- controlled impact on forehead is like turning off a switch. Death occurs from blood loss- after being knocked out, carotid and jugular is severed.

Comparing speed of death between rounds that will penetrate the brain cavity is like comparing speed of death from a 20 kiloton nuke and a 20 megaton nuke- if you are inside the fireball radius, it is immaterial.

BTW- here is an article from a friend who is a hunter, shooter, and professor of veterninary medicine. It is one of a BUNCH of good articles on his blog- NRV Outdoors. It details the history of the "Huamne Killer" used by vets and slaughter operations. http://www.nrvoutdoors.com/HUMANE%20KILLERS/BANG.htm

Buckethead47 02-28-2012 12:41 PM

We would use our hunting knives to the throat. We only had this happen a few times. But once we piped him in the chest to rupture the heart because my uncle wanted to do a chest up mount.

unclebear 02-28-2012 01:45 PM

I would use a 38 special +p to the base of the skull where the spine meets the skull, I usually do it to animals in live traps (diseased) but I usually use a 22mag fmj and it kills them pretty much instantly.


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