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ANAKINANAYA 04-23-2012 02:02 AM

What grain of 223 should i use for deer in tx
 
I got a new Remington model 700sps tactical in 223. I have a model 700 in 308 but love to shoot the 223. My question is what grain will be enough to kill a deer at 100-200 yards.

Shade 04-23-2012 04:05 PM

http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/rifle/tsx-bullet/

I have a 1:9 twist barrel and I did not have any issues with the 70 grain
TSX bullets. They drop whitetails with no issues.

FYI.
http://kwk.us/twist.html

SG (specific gravity for the copper jacketed lead core is ~10.9)
Remember to change the SG as needed.

purehavoc 04-23-2012 05:07 PM

Just pick a HP or ballistic tipped bullet that shoots well out of your gun at 200 and go with it , anything from 55-70 gr should work great. Shot placement is always the key

JonM 04-23-2012 05:25 PM

My opinion 223 is too light for deer but ive seen them drop like rocks from that round. Shot placement is a must.

I think ballistic tips and hp are to frangible for deer greatly increasing the odds of superficial wounds and lost deer. My recomendation is a heavy 70+ grain softpoint. If your gun can handle 75 or greater and still hold 3 inches at 150yds your good to go.

Remington likes to use 1:12 twistfor their bolt guns in 223 which is great for varmints it doesnt lend itself well at all to heavier bullets needed for deer. While tumbling on impact or befor it hits is great for warfare its terrible for hunting when you want the bullet to expand in a controlled fashion, not self destruct like wedge antilles' proton torpedo on the outer skin of the death star...

purehavoc 04-23-2012 05:33 PM

The SPS tactical is a 1:9 twist , I would personally shoot 62 gr and up skip the 55 gr . its doesnt take much to kill a deer , heart or lungs and they wont go more than 100 yards , and Jon is right a soft point would probably be better suited and have a harder shotwave hit on the larger animal . I see your out in Texas shouldnt be to hard to find a downed deer out there in the desert :D

ANAKINANAYA 04-23-2012 08:48 PM

thanks for the help one more question should i go for a neck shot or just the heart?

lonyaeger 04-23-2012 09:07 PM

A 60-grain Nosler Partition might be just the ticket.

A neck shot will drop 'em like a bag of hammers and some times is a little bit easier of a shot to make, depending on the circumstances and how good of a shot you are.

sniper762 04-24-2012 12:57 AM

heart shot

JonM 04-24-2012 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purehavoc (Post 779739)
The SPS tactical is a 1:9 twist , I would personally shoot 62 gr and up skip the 55 gr . its doesnt take much to kill a deer , heart or lungs and they wont go more than 100 yards , and Jon is right a soft point would probably be better suited and have a harder shotwave hit on the larger animal . I see your out in Texas shouldnt be to hard to find a downed deer out there in the desert :D

i deer hunt and hog hunt down in the deep south of tejas. i take it youve never been lost in several acres of prickly pear cactus... heh makes the midwest corn maze look like a boyscout picnic heh.

trust me that whitetail can get in some really small holes through those thickets!! if you manage to avoid the spine not get lost and find your deer you then have to drag it back through the impossible way you came dodging 6 foot rattlers and cactus spines. at the point where the deer/hog finally kicked over he managed to cover every square inch of its hide in cactus spines which go through everything short of plate steel like its not there.

there is a reason i prefer using 350grn soft points out of my winchester model 70 in 458winmag going 2400fps!! i dont like chasing deer!!

http://www.stexboat.com/scout/tr583e...ctusbrush2.JPG

plus you got these little land mines scattered at random...

http://www.stexboat.com/scout/tr583e...ho_cactus3.jpg

then to top it off the trees have thorns :)

that is why i dont use anything on a deer im not 100% sure it will drop where i shoot it!!

purehavoc 04-24-2012 01:48 AM

I grew up out in AZ so I know about them damn ol prickly pear cactus's and rattlers , I HATE SNAKES !!!!!!!. Never been hunting in TX but Im sure its a challenge to . I wanna come out there and shoot some hogs some time . Thats my next big hunt, ,my last one was canada black bear with my bow . Yup that was fun !!!!


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