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hairbear1 07-05-2012 08:59 PM

Removed a bird killing feral pest
 
The son's mate had not long bought a new Savage .223 and we went out to his parent's place to sight it in for him and try a few handloads to see what it liked.Well we spent a few hours last Saturday sighting in and doing a few other rifles and had the son's mate's rifle shooting fairly tight and it seemed to like the BT's in Hornady and Nosler in 55gn pills with 25gns of BM2 behind it.
A couple of days later my son gets a call off his mate that he'd accidently dropped the rifle off his quad bike and it seemed to be missing what he was shooting at namely rabbits,foxes and a few 'roos so could we come out and get it shooting right as he was going up to northern New South Wales the following weekend chasing pigs and 'roos.

We set up and the 1st 2 shots hit the paint tin at 25 yards so we moved the targets out to 100 yards and after about 10 shots found that the rifle was shooting a bit high and to the left and adjusted the rifle to be about 1" high at 100 yards.

By this stage we were starting to pack up when I flashed the EDI-T torch around and low and behold a pair of green eyes flashed back at us from under a Willow tree at 180 yards away(ranged),"FOX!" I said and there was panic as the son's mate had just put the .223 away and rushed to unpack it and set it up on the bench we were using to sight in on.
During this I was doing my best to imitate a fox whistle's call using my mouth and also using a squeeker thingy out of a dog's toy as it also sounds like a mouse. The green eyes disappeared for a minute or so and then to our immediate right my son who had by this stage set up the spotlight said that the green eyes were coming in.
I told the young fella to get ready and wait for the shot as the owner of the green eyes turned out to be a greyish black cat. The apprentice Panther sat near the 100 yard target we were using and I told the young fella to let go at the cat and he hit it in the neck with a 55gn Federal factory load SP. He was ecstatic with the result and himself,regards

orangello 07-05-2012 09:10 PM

Soooooooo, you spotlighted a non-game species and managed to put it down with one shot from an overpowered .22 centerfire?

The last time i used a spotlight for hunting, i was maybe ten old, and the intended targets were rabbits (not legal method here). During a break, I saw one within a yard or two and fired too quickly with my shotgun (safer for poaching at night, less range); i realized pretty quickly that rabbit was actually a skunk, and that his spray and innards had just coated me thoroughly. I haven't used a spotlight to hunt since. I offer you the same CONGRATULATIONS i was offered by the others in my "hunting" party as they hurriedly backed away from the enduring stench.

W. C. Quantrill 07-05-2012 09:16 PM

Bernie from Perth, says, if its feral, its in peril.

hairbear1 07-05-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by orangello (Post 860237)
Soooooooo, you spotlighted a non-game species and managed to put it down with one shot from an overpowered .22 centerfire?

The last time i used a spotlight for hunting, i was maybe ten old, and the intended targets were rabbits (not legal method here). During a break, I saw one within a yard or two and fired too quickly with my shotgun (safer for poaching at night, less range); i realized pretty quickly that rabbit was actually a skunk, and that his spray and innards had just coated me thoroughly. I haven't used a spotlight to hunt since. I offer you the same CONGRATULATIONS i was offered by the others in my "hunting" party as they hurriedly backed away from the enduring stench.

"Overpowered .22 centrefire" ............hmmmm and the difference to this compared to shooting PD's and gophers with anything from a .204 to 22/250+ is what?

Feral cats here in Australia are a real threat to our native bird species and are shot on sight by just about everybody.
Spotlighting is legal here and is actually a very effective way of removing feral foxes and cats.
Some of these cats get as big as a small dog and are voracious predators on our native birds and smaller animals like Bettongs,Marsupial mice,possums.

A lot of the time blokes whistling for foxes will actually get a feral cat coming in to the whistle and these are shot without a second thought.
Most of these cats started out as pets and then got dumped in the bush because people were to stupid to either have it put down or sell it so let it go in the bush to fend for itself and they soon revert back to their wild origins very quickly 1 of the most adaptive predators around.

Most of the animals here in Australia are introduced such as rabbits,foxes, feral cats,dogs,goats,pigs,donkeys,horses,deer,camels,bu ffalo(Asiatic),Banteng cattle and scrub cattle.
All these are shot and some like buffalo,scrub cattle and Banteng,deer are managed to a point with the buffalo and Banteng living in the North of our country and costing a fair bit to hunt but deer have seasons put on them.
It's been estimated that there is something like 23 million feral pigs in Australia,almost 1 pig per person and there's a big camel cull coming up in our North West in Western Australia and Northern Territory because these have reached pest proportions and something like 6000-7000 camels will have to culled a year to try and control them.

W. C. Quantrill 07-05-2012 09:38 PM

I have been dreaming and saving to come to your country to get in on some of that, to hunt .with my friend Bernie from Perth. He is a frequent visitor to quite a few forums....AHN and others here stateside...

What does it cost you for a permit to shoot a buffalo? Is a non resident much higher? You have some Huge pigs in the north part of WA.

hairbear1 07-05-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by W. C. Quantrill (Post 860269)
I have been dreaming and saving to come to your country to get in on some of that, to hunt .with my friend Bernie from Perth. He is a frequent visitor to quite a few forums....AHN and others here stateside...

What does it cost you for a permit to shoot a buffalo? Is a non resident much higher? You have some Huge pigs in the north part of WA.

AHN is the forum I'm also a member of over here .

Mate to get yourself a decent bragging rights buff it's going to cost a fair bit but things like pigs,goats,deer are a bit easier and cheaper to get into as most of the critters I mentioned are nearly Australia wide. I can give you the name of a reputible Outfitter if you ever want to go that far who can also get you onto some decent pigs,deer,Banteng and scrub cattle but as I said it's going to cost.
But if you just want to get into some goats and pigs and probably say Sambar Deer or Fallow Deer then this outfitter can put you in the right direction as well.He also goes to the big show every year over there in Texas I think to promote his business,regards

orangello 07-05-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hairbear1 (Post 860259)
"Overpowered .22 centrefire" ............hmmmm and the difference to this compared to shooting PD's and gophers with anything from a .204 to 22/250+ is what?

Most of these cats started out as pets and then got dumped in the bush because people were to stupid to either have it put down or sell it so let it go in the bush to fend for itself and they soon revert back to their wild origins very quickly 1 of the most adaptive predators around.

Understood. I'm not much of a varmint hunter myself and have a particular dislike of the .223 due to it being foisted on my elder relatives fighting in Vietnam. I suppose the feds just underestimated the size of those fellows in Vietnam or something. :confused: I do use .22LR on some tree squirrels when i occasionally am forced to "manage their local population".

Feral pets are a problem in some areas of the U.S. as well; i am saddened by the number of Burmese Pythons living without a loving owner in the swamps of Florida. When my own BP lost its place in my household, i made sure it went to a good home with no children or small pets. Personally, i wouldn't be overly offended if all those caught dumping pets in the wilderness were stripped, beaten, and dumped with the pets and without transport back to or a place in their home towns.

I have a particular admiration for the purity of cats as predators, even when living under a human's care. I have owned a few and been happy with all of them. Birds i have never liked and have no use for other than as portals to my breakfast table for delicious eggs.

rjd3282 07-05-2012 09:51 PM

The only good cat is a dead cat. :D

JonM 07-05-2012 09:54 PM

just a note to those that may not understand the laws regarding feral animals are much different in aussieland and new zealand than they are in the united states.

they have much more leeway dispatching pest animals than we do.

hairbear1 07-05-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by orangello (Post 860283)
Understood. I'm not much of a varmint hunter myself and have a particular dislike of the .223 due to it being foisted on my elder relatives fighting in Vietnam. I suppose the feds just underestimated the size of those fellows in Vietnam or something. :confused: I do use .22LR on some tree squirrels when i occasionally am forced to "manage their local population".

Feral pets are a problem in some areas of the U.S. as well; i am saddened by the number of Burmese Pythons living without a loving owner in the swamps of Florida. When my own BP lost its place in my household, i made sure it went to a good home with no children or small pets. Personally, i wouldn't be overly offended if all those caught dumping pets in the wilderness were stripped, beaten, and dumped with the pets and without transport back to or a place in their home towns.

Hey no worries. I hunt rabbits with a .22 or .22 Magnum or smack them with either my REM 788 .222 or my young fella belts them with his Stevens .223 at long range. I also hunt pigs and goats with my .270 CMC Howa,30/06AI or hopefully soon my Mk3 No.1 .303.

The .223 is used a lot by the Pro Kangaroo shooters here as it's cheap to load for and does the job as good as what the .222 does.
Mate ask away about our game over here as we have plenty to hunt and if I can I can give you info on what we use on them,regards


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