Pardon me while I jump up on my soap box...and I apologize for the lengthy post. This will be the only thing I will post to this subject.
While wolves have gotten a lot of press, it offers a chance to bring to light some other facts that should be illuminated as well.
Originally Posted by rjd3282
Did you see the numbers and how it was reported? 1.7 millon dollars spent for wolves. The reporter said the state paid some and the federal government paid some. Really? The government didn't pay jack for them we the tax payers did. I wish every time someone says the "government" paid they would use the words "tax payers". The government doesn't generate it's own income they steal it from us. 1.7 millon for wild dogs. Wonder why we are broke?
Now instead of the State paying and funding sport hunts, the full responsibility of regulating and controlling the animals falls back to the federal government. Money that could be better spent on other animals more deserving of the FWS strained funds for conservation. More dollars are spent on legal defenses than on actual biology within the FWS. Endangered Species Act Candidates Getting Prioritized | Miller-McCune
Since 2007, WildEarth Guardians
has petitioned more than 700 species for listing and filed more than 30 related lawsuits to nudge the Fish and Wildlife Service through the process many bottlenecks. The Endangered Species Act requires
that wildlife petitioned by the public
receive an initial finding within 90 days, and then another at 12 months. The government then ultimately places species in one of three categories: they either warrant or dont warrant protection, or warrant it but are precluded by higher priorities.
Fish and Wildlife officials said this week that the sheer volume of court orders has threatened to consume most of the services funding and staff. The service has received more than 1,230 petitions for new species to be considered in the last four years, nearly eclipsing the total from the previous three decades. The government sought to consolidate the many related lawsuits in district court in Washington, D.C., leading to the settlement reached this week.
From outside Washington, its hard to grasp exactly what it is that takes so long in making these decisions. The principal question is actually a very simple one, said Nicole Rosmarino, the wildlife program director for WildEarth Guardians. Is the species threatened or endangered, or not? And that question is supposed to be a purely biological one, without regard
for political or economic considerations, without concern for even how an endangered species would logistically be saved once its listed.
So IMHO, it looks to me like tax payer dollars were used to battle petitions by tax-exempt companies. Not squandered by your federal government. Here is a little info on this "Charity" working to "steal" your tax-payer dollars url=http://www.wildearthguardians.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_history]WildEarth Guardians: History
So you see, there are other aspects to funds spent by the federal government on "wolves" than what meets the eye (or the ear) of the public. Statute requirements dictate that moneys be spent on these animals. The federal government, i.e. FWS, is FORCED by these groups to expend YOUR tax dollars on things that they would normally spend elsewhere for greater benefits to everybody.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service WANTS to delist the wolves, but a congressional rider is not the way to do it, in this I agree.
On MAY 5, 2011
The wolf activists continue their selfish challenges to wolves being delisted under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). The Center for Biological Diversity today filed a challenge in federal district court in Missoula, Montana, arguing that a congressional rider requiring removal of ESA protections for wolves in the northern Rocky Mountains is unlawful because it violated the separation of powers in the U.S. Constitution.
The wolf rider (to the budget) is a clear example of overreaching by Congress. The rider is a disaster for any endangered species that a politician doesnt like. Congress has set a terrible precedent that I hope will be overturned; not because of the wolves, but because of the precedent. Delist Wolves
Defenders of Wildlife agreed to not litigate delisting of wolves once certain population numbers were reached. Defenders of Wildlife along with other wolf activist groups have not honored the agreement they made challenging every effort to delist wolves from the Endangered Species List. Wildlife agencies now estimate wolf numbers to be at least 5 times the objective population agreed to prior to reintroduction.
Originally Posted by spittinfire
I am not a fan of reintroducing them. They are hunters and don't care what they hunt. They will kill deer, livestock, pets, and I believe humans just like they did in the past. A wolf has a place and it is no where near me.
Wolves were once a vital part of the landscape of North America, and evidently they were also an integral contributor to ecosystems before bounty hunters decimated their numbers. But with the reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone, researchers have discovered that wolves may literally be reshaping the landscape. By keeping elk on the run, the aspens and willows are allowed to grow unchecked (contrasting the denuding of the vegetation seen in Yellowstone after the wolves were extirpated from the park). Trees and shrubs are starting to grow back along the streams and rivers, and beavers and songbirds once again have new homes and habitats in which to flourish. The reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone may have been controversial, but the long-term effects have paid off through the manifestation of biodiversity within the park. The majestic wilderness and vitality of Yellowstone National Park is making a comeback of its own.
Originally Posted by Fisherking
Around here we use the three s rule " SHOOT, SHOVEL, AND SHUTUP
Wolves and cyotes are reaking havok on our deer populations.
Originally Posted by 500mag_guy
Donald Molloy is responsible for our elk, deer, moose, JUST EVERYTHING population dropping over 1/2. They have it set up for this year where there will be a season but ol Molloy will get it shut down agian. But personally i dont care i shoot every one of those phuckers i see!Attachment 28473
A word of caution to the wise: posting of illegal activity on a public forum is never a good idea...The federal penalty for killing an animal protected under the Endangered Species Act is a maximum $100,000 fine and a year in prison.
Food for thought.