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huntinhick 09-12-2010 01:03 PM

need help deciding the cartrige for my next rifle
Hey, i need some help deciding on which cartridge to use for the remington model 700 varmint stainless fluted rifle that im looking to purchase, the rifle is a 26" heave barrel with a 1;12 twist rate dont get it mixed up with the newer more expensive vssf model, i am seriously curious about the .204 ruger cartridge but like the price of the .223 ammunition, most of my shooting will be done 100-300 yards occasionally i like to try to reach out there further but we will say 350 max (i do not currently reload) i want to squeeze very tight groups at 100 1/4-1/2" at the most if possible and try to keep them as tight as possible at further ranges which cartridge do yall think will work oh yeah and i almost forgot i do some varmint hunting and when i hit i want the most ballistics as possible

masterPsmith 09-12-2010 03:41 PM

You might want to go to the Introductions section and tell us a little about yourself. You might get more responses.
If you are thinking of the .223 or .204 Ruger, you will want to go with a tighter twist rate, such as a 7 in one up to a 9 in one twist rate to stabilize the heavier bullets. The 1 in 12 would be ok for only the lightest of bullets in those calibers.


huntinhick 09-12-2010 11:45 PM

the only problem is that i only have the money for a rem 700 with the 1:12 twist rate what would the consequence be if i fired the 40 and higher pills out of the 1;12

stalkingbear 09-13-2010 12:44 AM

You SHOULD be able to shoot up to 55gr max bullets (.223) out of a 1-12. I say should because all rifles are different. The ammo cost for a .223 is going to be a LOT cheaper than a .204. Since you don't reload YET that would be a consideration. Or you could save your pennies and get the more expensive model.

Redarrow18 09-13-2010 02:04 AM

do you hunt larger game than varmint?

huntinhick 09-15-2010 04:18 AM

well this will be an all around rifle im not quite sure if it would be humane to chunk suck a small round at a deer, and im unsure about the laws on the .204 but i would consider it for one reason i dont hunt for trophy or a rack so i dont shoot for chests im more of an ear or eye guy drop them where they stand still i would be very reluctant to use it on large game, in all honesty i have a major beaver problem at the lake at my house they seem to like to burrow in the dam that keeps water from flooding a neighborhood

huntinhick 09-15-2010 04:20 AM

also it would be a range gun accuracy is a must thats why im going with the base model for a m40a1 ,3 ,5, also seldom coyote and fox hunter

nwrednk 09-15-2010 09:27 AM

I would vote for the .223 rem...
As availability & affordability reign supreme above most rifle cartriges. Imho it
is too small for most of the game I hunt, but the flat shooting performance of
the .223 even works great when used with a Thompson/Contender pistol! It
can be a great deer round with the right bullet @ long range...but in close you
might have the same problem I did with a 150gr .308 bullet that passed thru
a deer w/o expanding. The deer "did not know it was dead yet", & attacked
me until it was about 25 feet away was put-down by a head shot! :eek:

spittinfire 09-15-2010 10:08 AM

I personally with go with 223 since you aren't reloading. The 223 will do everything the 204 will do and then some. The 204 might be faster and a little flatter but in the ranges you're talking about you won't see it.

huntinhick 09-15-2010 06:19 PM

with the .223 would it be a good idea to go with the 1;12 or try to save for the tighter twist

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