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jtm1212 06-07-2011 02:17 PM

Need advise on factory 44 mag ammo for black bear
 
Hi everyone,
I am new to the forum and am looking for some advise on factory 44 mag ammo for black bear defense. I have a Marlin 1894 SS 44 mag and a Taurus model 44 SS 4" barrel. I am looking to use the same ammo for both for. I have been looking at the Federal Cast core 300gr, Speer Gold Dot 270 gr DCSP, Hornady 240 and 300 gr XTP, Buffalo Bore 270 Gr JFN and Double tap 300 gr Nosler. :confused: Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

JonM 06-07-2011 03:20 PM

No hollow points soft point only for animal dispatching. Hp rounds wont penetrate far enough with enough energy ti do a bear in.

Any softpoint load 240grn+ for hunting will do.

Ideal for rifle would be 300grn softpoint might not work well in a small revolver.

mrm14 06-07-2011 03:48 PM

300 gr. CastCore.

rjd3282 06-07-2011 06:07 PM

I believe for bear I'd be using the heaviest fastest solid you can find.

500mag_guy 06-19-2011 06:44 AM

i know that the topic on hand isnt for a 500 mag but i have a question on hollow point bullets in the 500. a hornady xtp 350 gr. is what i shoot through it. Do you guys think i could possibly have the same problem as the 44 with not having enough power to penetrate a bears hide and kill it? A friend of mine shot a 5x6 bull elk at just under 250 yards away with his 500 mag loaded with my recipe for this bullet. He hit him right though the lungs and the bull dropped like i ton of SH!T. The entrance hole was the size of a pop can and the exit was big enough to stick your head inside and look around.

AusLach 06-19-2011 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 500mag_guy (Post 525527)
i know that the topic on hand isnt for a 500 mag but i have a question on hollow point bullets in the 500. a hornady xtp 350 gr. is what i shoot through it. Do you guys think i could possibly have the same problem as the 44 with not having enough power to penetrate a bears hide and kill it? A friend of mine shot a 5x6 bull elk at just under 250 yards away with his 500 mag loaded with my recipe for this bullet. He hit him right though the lungs and the bull dropped like i ton of SH!T. The entrance hole was the size of a pop can and the exit was big enough to stick your head inside and look around.

Probably. I frontal shot on a charging bear will have to punch through the skull or spinal column to reach vitals. The shot on the elk might have had to penetrate the ribs, but even so, that bone is of a different composition to the skull; much softer.

In big/dangerous game situations, any increase in penetration is an increase in reliability and safety.

keymastr5912 06-19-2011 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrm14 (Post 519106)
300 gr. CastCore.

this is my vote

spittinfire 06-19-2011 01:49 PM

Mind buying off the internet? Check our Buffalo Bore's hard cast loads. I'd got 270gr and heavier. It's a good hot load with a good bullet for penetration.

m72law 06-19-2011 03:59 PM

buffalo bore is the best ammo for 44mag

but you might have a problem if you plan on using anything over 270 grs. from that 1894 marlin,as your barrel has a slow rate of twist.(bullets want stabilize very well)keep your bullet weights under 270gr..also your 44 taurus might not chamber the buffalo bore ammo has thier OAL is longer than most 44 ammo

i dont do much hunting anymore,but if i was going hunting for black bear & had my heart set on using a 44mag rifle/handgun combo...i'd grab my winchester & ruger redhawk using BB 340gr. L.F.N. +P+ :)

powg 06-29-2011 07:10 PM

.44 mag
 
I have heard great things about the hornady leverevelution in .44 mag ....works well on bad ass boars would suffice on black bear. the flex tip technology works for the tube magazines in the lever action ...should get good penetration before it expands ,and deliver the full amount of shock to the vitals. Black bears arent any tougher than a wild hog .


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