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Old 11-01-2013, 11:28 PM   #41
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There would be no blood trail on a very large whitetail w/ .223, just as with a .243.
Why not? You gonna use frangible bullets or miss? The deer Ive killed with 223 all died within 25yrds of where they were shot (3 does).

There isn't a deer on earth than can survive a well placed kill shot with a good hunting bullet from a .243. That's ridiculous.
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a 243. wont leave a blood trail ? ? ? thats ludicris.....or maybe my daughter is just a better shot. and her deer kills are all over 200 pounds...
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Why not? You gonna use frangible bullets or miss? The deer Ive killed with 223 all died within 25yrds of where they were shot (3 does).

There isn't a deer on earth than can survive a well placed kill shot with a good hunting bullet from a .243. That's ridiculous.
Blood trail!! Blood Trail!!! Very small entrance, no exit!!!! There is not enough mass to exit! People use .223, .243 all the time. Here in NH I've gotten more calls near dark to track Whitetail shot w/ .243 then any other caliber. There was no blood trail. Just my humble experience. Using a 87..100gr bullet from a caliber designed for vermin is not the best choice. Again, people use them with great success, but it still does not make for the best option. TexWood, Sorry, he opened a door, I just stepped through. No intention of taking this anywhere else but .223 in Texas.
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Blood trail!! Blood Trail!!! Very small entrance, no exit!!!! There is not enough mass to exit! People use .223, .243 all the time. Here in NH I've gotten more calls near dark to track Whitetail shot w/ .243 then any other caliber. There was no blood trail. Just my humble experience. Using a 87..100gr bullet from a caliber designed for vermin is not the best choice. Again, people use them with great success, but it still does not make for the best option. TexWood, Sorry, he opened a door, I just stepped through. No intention of taking this anywhere else but .223 in Texas.
Poor bullets and shots yield poor results. Ive seen hundreds of thru and thru shots with a .243 and some with a .223 even. Shot placement and bullet choice. Keys to success.
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I'm thinking this round would leave a blood trail if there aren't guts and organs everywhere.

What did this? A 55 grain Norinco. .223, photo source here.
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What did this? A 55 grain Norinco. .223, photo source here.
I normally like that guy, DeltaF, but I call bull-t on that story. I have fired lots of Norinco fmj's in my Mini 14 at paper and at varying ranges. They do not "tumble". I'd have noticed by now. He's out to lunch on accuracy, too. No way is Norinco ammo able to print 1MOA. It's bulk Chinese - it's cheap and it goes "Bang". That's it.
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I normally like that guy, DeltaF, but I call bull-t on that story. I have fired lots of Norinco fmj's in my Mini 14 at paper and at varying ranges. They do not "tumble". I'd have noticed by now. He's out to lunch on accuracy, too. No way is Norinco ammo able to print 1MOA. It's bulk Chinese - it's cheap and it goes "Bang". That's it.
I don't know anything about Norinco one way or the other. However, from what I read on the site the round used on that pig was a hand load not bulk ammo. Also, tumbling occurs after the round strikes the target not in mid air so it wouldn't be evident on paper. The site doesn't recommend Norinco as a factory loaded hunting ammo.
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I am 100% against hunting deer with the 22 caliber BUT I know people who do it (it is legal here in AL) so I bought a couple 100 rounds of the Federal Fusion ammo to sell them. If they are going to do it I want to do my part in trying to do the humane thing even if they will not!!!
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Blood trail!! Blood Trail!!! Very small entrance, no exit!!!! There is not enough mass to exit! People use .223, .243 all the time. Here in NH I've gotten more calls near dark to track Whitetail shot w/ .243 then any other caliber. There was no blood trail. Just my humble experience. Using a 87..100gr bullet from a caliber designed for vermin is not the best choice. Again, people use them with great success, but it still does not make for the best option. TexWood, Sorry, he opened a door, I just stepped through. No intention of taking this anywhere else but .223 in Texas.
Amen! My experience exactly! But there are far to many people who refuse to listen to 'fact', they say 'It worked so it is the BEST gun to use'!
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Unbelievable about what you blokes can shoot deer with.

In Australia the minimum allowable calibre to shoot deer is .243 for our smaller species(Hog deer, Fallow) and .270 minimum for the larger deer like Red and Sambar but most use at least a .270 to start with and anything upto .458 on the Sambar and Red deer.
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