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Old 10-27-2013, 04:35 PM   #11
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Thanks for the info guys. I'm kind of leaning towards the Sierra GameKings now. I know where I can get them for a good price.
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/495491/swift-scirocco-2-bullets-22-caliber-224-diameter-75-grain-bonded-spitzer-boat-tail-box-of-100
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Thanks for the info guys. I'm kind of leaning towards the Sierra GameKings now. I know where I can get them for a good price.
Bear in mind that Sierra does not recommend this bullet for anything but varmints and small game. Your milage may vary.....
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Check out Norinco. They have some amazing bullet designs if you can find them.

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Doesn't look like a .223 wound does it? Image found here.
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For long-range match purposes, long, high-BC bullets are favored for their ability to buck the wind. You'll want at least a 1:8" twist to shoot the 77gr and 80gr MatchKings and 80gr Bergers. To shoot the new 90gr pills, a 1:6.5" is recommended, though a true 1:7" will work in most conditions.

Overall, what twist rate is best? For varminting we like a 12-twist. The slower twist will give you a bit more velocity, and minimize the risk of jacket failure at high rpms. For general use, an 8-twist barrel will let you shoot the excellent 77gr and 80gr Sierra MatchKings and nearly all varieties of non-tracer milsurp ammo. We'd only select a 1:7" or faster twist barrel if we had a need to shoot the 90gr VLDs.
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Shot placement being key is an understatement. I shot a mule deer doe in Montana this weekend with a 30-06. Was not a difficult shot, even a little under a hundred yards. She took off right as I was pulling the trigger (can't do a damn thing about that) and I shot it thru the pelvis with a 30-06. Went clear thru and broke both legs. I felt terrible about that and ran in to finish it off quickly Not the most humane kill but anybody who ever shot a muley knows this happens. They hop like they are on pogo sticks Pretty sure a .223 in that situation would have resulted in a runaway deer to be found later at the bottom of a Cooley. So yeah shot placement is great. You are not firing at paper targets though.
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I have killed deer using 65gr Sierra Gameking bullets in my handloads and shooting a scoped Mini-14 with a 1:9 twist. Very good deer slayer out to 100-150yrds. Nosler Partition 60gr and Barnes 62gr are two I would like to try one day but for the price the Gameking is a no brainer.
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Thanks guys for the info. I ended up buying the 65gr GameKings at my local reloader's shop, so I'll let you guys know how I like them when I get a chance to use them.
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Cant answer your other question about an effective round but can answer the one about the 1 in 7

1:7 was almosta bit of an overtwist even for M855 62 gr.
I had a chart somewhere but I lost it

Your 70, 75 and 77 gr common loads should do real well with that twist for accuracy.
The 1/7 is over twist for the 62 gr FMJ, but was needed for the much longer 62 gr Tracer.

I love the Power Point. I have heard horror stories about the lack of weight retention, but 60 grains of retained weight after traversing a 65 lb Coyote from left hip to right shoulder is good enough for me. On Texas deer it would be up to the task of neck shots. I would not risk chest shots on a 22 caliber centerfire. I woul be hesitent with a 6mm/.243
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The 1/7 is over twist for the 62 gr FMJ, but was needed for the much longer 62 gr Tracer.

I love the Power Point. I have heard horror stories about the lack of weight retention, but 60 grains of retained weight after traversing a 65 lb Coyote from left hip to right shoulder is good enough for me. On Texas deer it would be up to the task of neck shots. I would not risk chest shots on a 22 caliber centerfire. I woul be hesitent with a 6mm/.243
To each their own robo, and I would never try to change someone's mind about what they feel is adequate for whitetails, but I love the 223 for deer.my next favorite cartridge would be the 243. All of which I take chest shots with. My farthest kill on whitetail has been just a hair under 250 yards and I used a 243 chest shot and it went down after a few steps. with a 223 my farthest shot is 125 and I think that would be about the limits of a 223 for deer. And that's big ky deer.
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