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Old 06-16-2008, 09:02 PM   #21
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With those kinds of problems, I don't think I'd feel a bit bad about sending it back. I sorta cut my teeth on an old H&R Topper. Family had a 16 guage and a .410. My mother still has the .410. They were great old guns.
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RL don't feel bad I have heard of a few people having that problems with the rossie.

Might try the savage I have heard it is a very good combo gun.
If you mean the Over/Under, yes - the Savage over/under has been in existence forever - that say's it all!
In the last Outdoor Life issue they did their usual gun review - the Savage MarkII .22lr was the best and earned both the "Editor's Choice" and "Great Buy" rating. They went so far as to say that not only was this rifle the most accurate of the review, but the most accurate rifle they EVER tested. The largest 5-shot group measured .26"...So yes, Savage makes some very reasonably priced well-made guns. Thanks for reminding me, I forgot about the Savage!
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With those kinds of problems, I don't think I'd feel a bit bad about sending it back. I sorta cut my teeth on an old H&R Topper. Family had a 16 guage and a .410. My mother still has the .410. They were great old guns.
I spent more money on ammo trying to diagnose the problem than I payed for the damned gun!

Yep! Thats the one - I believe it is the Model 088 Topper. It came in all guages. Mine is 22 years old and looks and shoots like the day I bought it at Service Merchandise for $65!
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I think the little .410 is pre-088. I'm 59 and it was in the family long before I was born. It has lost it's shine, but it still functions beautifully. Bore is good, no pitting and the breakdown and mainsprings are still plenty stout. I suspect there has been enough squirrels shot with it to surprise most folks today.
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.270 if your not worried about pelt damage or 12ga #4 buck

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If your going 100% for hides the .17 Rem. would be my first choice with 30 gr. bullets. 2nd. choice would be the .204 Ruger with 35 gr. Berger bullets. I sell hide but don`t worry if their shot up. I carry an AR when running them with dogs and usually pack a .22-6mm when just setting and watching. If there`s not alot of wind it`s good past 600 yrds. 100% of the time, if I have time to lazer and get the shot off. When calling 1 guy will carry a .223 semi-auto and the other a long range gun. For a factory round and good deer round, the .243, or the longer range .22 cal. rounds are good, but you`ll get some big holes.
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Rimfires are NOT coyote rounds. I don't care what anyone says.
Probably doesnt really matter if you care what anyone says or not
Ive heard WAY too many stories of hunters who only use 17HMR to hunt coyote who havent had to take a second shot.
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Yah and I have heard of guys using a 220 swift on a lion he didn't take another shot eaither. But 5 days later he was grass land fertlizer. Go figure.

I still stand by the RIMFIRES ARE NOT YOTE ROUNDS statement. If you want to hunt them get a centerfire. 17Rem are good as are 204 Ruger, 223, 22-250.

I am not sure how the pelts are out in AZ but I am sure they are not going to bring much money unless they get up around tuson or in the higher elevations where it snows.

The smallest I would go out with would be a 17 fireball. The biggest 50bmg for them ultimate red mist needs.

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You might want to look at the 25-06 nice flat shooting round with plenty of knockdown power.

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Just depends what kind of range you are talking about, the longer ther range the faster and more powerful round you need, I am not a big .223 fan, but for this kind of work it is perfect, I personaly like the Winchester.243 much more, but that will do it with out going over bore!

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