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Old 03-22-2013, 09:54 PM   #11
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Don't use anything too large; you want to make sure the bear suffers some.


But seriously, bless all of you and your happy bear-killing thoughts.

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Don't use anything too large; you want to make sure the bear suffers some.


But seriously, bless all of you and your happy bear-killing thoughts.
I wrote: "I have to agree with you that 338 and up must be good for hunting, as it kills faster, which means more humane and secure kill. "

So please read before being sarcastic.
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I wrote: "I have to agree with you that 338 and up must be good for hunting, as it kills faster, which means more humane and secure kill. "

So please read before being sarcastic.
I know & knew what you posted; I was encouraging you to take your time and enjoy watching the bear die whenever possible and without undue risk to yourself. It was not sarcasm, merely a request for a bit of sadism when dealing with the ursine scum. I mean it when I say that "the only good bear is a dead bear", though I do respect your right to disagree.
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What do you think is the smallest caliber to use for such a purpose?
I wouldn't want the minimum to ward off a polar bear. How about a .458 Lott?
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Wait, actively hunting bears and protection from bears are two separate things. Both call for different techniques and weapon systems. A hiker is not going to carry a rifle, because he is carrying a lot already. A handgun makes more sense. A hunter tracks or ambushes his game, which gives him time to make his shot without worrying about dying. A rifle makes more sense. The question is protection from bears, not hunting bears. When I go on long hikes, I can not imagine also carrying my CZ-550 all over the place. Oh, polar bears are a different matter. The tundra is pretty open and less chance of surprising a bear. Rifles make more sense. Plus, you will need to hunt if survival is called for. The game can sense you out in the open, so handgun might not help. Yet, maybe it is better to walk around the polar bears. The thread cracks me up though. Why are we hating on bears throughout? Did I miss something?

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I know & knew what you posted; I was encouraging you to take your time and enjoy watching the bear die whenever possible and without undue risk to yourself. It was not sarcasm, merely a request for a bit of sadism when dealing with the ursine scum. I mean it when I say that "the only good bear is a dead bear", though I do respect your right to disagree.
Of course i disagree with you. Bears are beautiful, and deserves their place in nature as any other animal. Though i see value in keeping some populations under control to keep nature balanced.

I Norway there really arent a lot of bears, though we have small but sustainable polar- and brown bear(similar to grizzly) populations. I pray that ill never have to shoot one.
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Of course i disagree with you. Bears are beautiful, and deserves their place in nature as any other animal. Though i see value in keeping some populations under control to keep nature balanced.

I Norway there really arent a lot of bears, though we have small but sustainable polar- and brown bear(similar to grizzly) populations. I pray that ill never have to shoot one.
Germany has some small brown bears in the Alps. Never heard of problems with them though.
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Germany has some small brown bears in the Alps. Never heard of problems with them though.
How is hunting regulated in germany? Can you hunt bear?

In Norway we have to have a special permission. Ecologist work out how many bears can be shot each year, so there is a limit on how many permissions are given.
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How is hunting regulated in germany? Can you hunt bear?

In Norway we have to have a special permission. Ecologist work out how many bears can be shot each year, so there is a limit on how many permissions are given.
Hunting license courses can take a year and is expensive. You need to know biology, conservation, weapon and hunting laws, history, weapon and caliber history, correct caliber for hunting different game, hunting culture, hunting language, diseases and parasites, how to process the animals. The test takes all day. You also have to take a shooting test with pistol, rifle, and shotgun. There are five disciplines with a percent to hit. It involves running targets at 100 meters with the rifle. The shotgun also has a running rabbit and clay shooting. Once again there is a percentage of shots. The shooting test is effing hard! I bet most Leos would fail. There are state and private Reviers. Everything costs and is regulated. Hunting is still for the rich in Germany, I am not rich. You still pay for the meat even if you shoot the animal (oay revier owner)If you own hunting rights on the revier it could cost between 500 to 1000€ a year, but you keep what you shoot. Each revier owner has a harvest plan that must be met. If game from a revier damages land in surrounding community, the revier owner must pay damages. Boar damage a lot of farms. We can not hunt bear.
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I've heard of people using bells and pepper spray as a deterrent.

I've also heard a lot of grizzly bears sh*t bells and their breath smells like pepper spray.

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