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Old 06-05-2014, 10:18 PM   #1
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Dear all Forum users

I am currently residing in the UK and I would like to get my hands on a shotgun. The problem is in the UK you need two licenses, one that you can get from a post office and a license to hunt one that the police come and interview you about. I am worried because of my age and gender the police will not take me seriously and be suspicious.

Do you have any hints on how to pass the interview? Would being a member of a shooting club help?

Also could you recommend any good starting rifles for me? I have a grand to spend but I'm looking about the £500 mark? Any price range up to £1000 is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Jen
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:06 AM   #2
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Dear all Forum users

I am currently residing in the UK and I would like to get my hands on a shotgun. The problem is in the UK you need two licenses, one that you can get from a post office and a license to hunt one that the police come and interview you about. I am worried because of my age and gender the police will not take me seriously and be suspicious.

Do you have any hints on how to pass the interview? Would being a member of a shooting club help?

Also could you recommend any good starting rifles for me? I have a grand to spend but I'm looking about the £500 mark? Any price range up to £1000 is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Jen
I would suggest that you either jump on the net and check out the British gun laws or go and talk to the local constabulary who should put you on the right path.
Also maybe a trip to the local gun club would do you well.
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Jen,

Welcome to the forum! When you get a chance, head over to the Imtroductions thread and tell us a little about yourself.

As far as your concerns, most of these laws were instituted to make it either unaffordable to own a weapon or to provide a psychological barrier, making it so you don't want to talk to an "official." The truth is, if you are not a criminal or mentally defective, there isn't a reason you should not be allowed to obtain the permits to own a weapon.

The easiest route would be to join a gun or hunting club before getting your permits and gun. They can handle your initial training, you can borrow other member's firearms to try them before you buy anything, and they will be able to give you the experience needed to answer the questions with authority. The more hands-on experience you have will allow you to feel confident, and the club will provide you a place to use your new firearm.

Look into local clubs and see if any have an introductory membership or allow a level of membership you can afford. The membership will become new friends and you'll be the better for it.
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Jen -Welcome from Penn's Woods, enjoy.

TekGreg has just given you the best advice I can imagine, IMHO.
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Welcome, Jen- and, as said- good advice up above.

As far as a first rifle- My recommendation to anyone would be a .22 rimfire- preferably a bolt action. Why? Recoil is pretty well non-existent, ammunition is MUCH cheaper than centerfire ammo, and the rifles are less expensive. And the skills you develop with a rimfire rifle transfer to other rifles.

However, I AM left with a bit of a puzzle- in your opening paragraph, you stated you wanted a shotgun, but then ask about rifles.

So.... are you looking for a rifle, a shotgun, both, or........???
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Jen,

Welcome to the forum! When you get a chance, head over to the Imtroductions thread and tell us a little about yourself.

As far as your concerns, most of these laws were instituted to make it either unaffordable to own a weapon or to provide a psychological barrier, making it so you don't want to talk to an "official." The truth is, if you are not a criminal or mentally defective, there isn't a reason you should not be allowed to obtain the permits to own a weapon.

The easiest route would be to join a gun or hunting club before getting your permits and gun. They can handle your initial training, you can borrow other member's firearms to try them before you buy anything, and they will be able to give you the experience needed to answer the questions with authority. The more hands-on experience you have will allow you to feel confident, and the club will provide you a place to use your new firearm.

Look into local clubs and see if any have an introductory membership or allow a level of membership you can afford. The membership will become new friends and you'll be the better for it.

Thank you for the great advice TekGreg, I will look into it.
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Welcome, Jen- and, as said- good advice up above.

As far as a first rifle- My recommendation to anyone would be a .22 rimfire- preferably a bolt action. Why? Recoil is pretty well non-existent, ammunition is MUCH cheaper than centerfire ammo, and the rifles are less expensive. And the skills you develop with a rimfire rifle transfer to other rifles.

However, I AM left with a bit of a puzzle- in your opening paragraph, you stated you wanted a shotgun, but then ask about rifles.

So.... are you looking for a rifle, a shotgun, both, or........???
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I'm looking for a rifle that isn't an air rifle basically, I'm pretty new to guns so I probably got the terminology wrong. I have yet to learn the details. Am I correct in thinking that a shotgun refers to all non- air weapons or only to specific rifles? Please enlighten me. I only have experience with air rifles.

Thank you for your advice
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Shotgun- a smoothbore firearm that fires a shotshell, discharging a good sized cloud of small round lead balls, generally used for bird hunting, but with larger shot or a 1 piece slug, capable of taking big game. Bore diameter generally given in terms of gauge, a 12 g shotgun has a bore diameter of about 0.72 inches, and fires about an ounce and a half of lead balls.

A rifle is a firearm with a rifled bore- it has grooves cut on the inside of the barrel in a spiral pattern. This imparts a spin to the fired single bullet, improving the accuracy at distance. They can range (typically) from a .22 caliber rimfire, suitable for targets to 100 meters and small game (rabbits, squirrels, etc) up to .30 caliber, or much larger, suitable for targets at 500-1000 meters, any animal that walks the earth, and smaller armored vehicles.

Neither is a airgun (although some airguns are air rifles) Both are bonafide firearms. And not to be snide or condescending- THIS is why you want to get some instruction before having that interview with Constable Friendly. A lack of information can be fixed. If you did not grow up where most households had a shotgun or rifle behind the kitchen door, it is understandable.

We can help transfer some information to you, but long distance cannot fully substitute for first hand experience- hence the suggestion to find and visit a local gun club, and let them know you are a pilgrim seeking enlightenment.

PS- what part of the UK? My lady is a West Country lass- born in Plymouth, grew up right on the River Tamar.
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PPS- I have a poker game in a short while, but over the weekend I will see if I can't find some internet reading for you to help out a bit. Ta-
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You have to be over 18 gender makes no difference, no need to be a member of a gun club. You don't need a licence to hunt.
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Shotgun Certificates (SGC) An application for an SGC can be obtained from any police station. For an application to be successful applicants must demonstrate to the police that they have satisfactory security in place and that the possession of a shotgun would not constitute a danger to public safety or to the peace. Applicants must nominate a counter-signatory to approve their application and must declare all criminal convictions, no matter how old or trivial. Once granted, an SGC is valid for five years and authorises the possession of any number of shotguns and most types of shotgun ammunition.
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A firearm is, broadly speaking for certification purposes, any lethal, barrelled weapon which isn't a shotgun or an airgun or a "prohibited weapon". The term "prohibited weapon" covers a multitude of devices including, but not limited to, machine guns, rocket launchers, pepper sprays, semi-automatic and pump-action centrefire rifles, disguised firearms, grenades, torpedoes and "any firearm which either has a barrel less than 30cm in length or is less than 60cm in length overall" (the most common member of this last group is a cartridge loading pistol).

For the purposes of legal possession of a firearm, effectively the above leaves Blackpowder weapons (both rifles and pistols), manually loaded centre-fire cartridge rifles (and all types of .22 rimfire rifles), and manually loaded cartridge pistols with dimensions larger than those defined above. All these weapons are what are termed "Section 1" firearms and are held on a Section 1 Firearms Certificate (there are other Sections for different categories of firearms, for example machine guns are in Section 5 and historic breech-loading firearms are in Section 7). It is difficult for private citizens to obtain an FAC for other than one covering Section 1 firearms.

An application for an FAC can be obtained from any police station. For an application to be successful applicants must demonstrate to the police that they have satisfactory security in place. They must also demonstrate that they have "good reason to possess" firearms and must produce such "good reason" for each individual firearm applied for. Unlike the SGC an FAC only gives authority for specific individual rifles or pistols, and the applicant must justify possession of each one separately. Applicants must nominate two referees to support their application and must declare all criminal convictions, no matter how old or trivial. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply in respect of firearms legislation. Once granted an FAC is valid for five years. A person over the age of 18 may be granted an FAC and may then buy firearms and ammunition as authorised by the certificate. An FAC may also be granted to a person between 14 and 18, but this will only authorise the possession of the firearms specified thereon - it will not authorise the purchase of firearms or ammunition. FACs are not granted to anyone under the age of 14.
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